PC Min - 11/13/2012CITY OF CAMPBELL PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
7:30 P.M.
The Planning Commission meeting of November 13, 2012, was called to order at 7:30
p.m., in the Council Chambers, 70 North First Street, Campbell, California by Chair
Reynolds and the following proceedings were had, to wit:
NOVEMBER 13, 2012
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
TUESDAY
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present:
Chair:
Vice Chair:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Philip C. Reynolds, Jr.
Paul Resnikoff
Brian Brennan
Pam Finch
Elizabeth Gibbons
John Razumich
Bob Roseberry
Commissioners Absent
Staff Present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
None
Interim Community
Development Director:
Associate Planner:
City Attorney:
Recording Secretary:
Paul Kermoyan
Daniel Fama
William Seligmann
Corinne Shinn
Motion: Upon motion by Commissioner Brennan, seconded by
Commissioner Finch, the Planning Commission minutes of the
meeting of October 23, 2012, were approved. (5-0-0-2;
Commissioners Gibbons and Razumich abstained)
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COMMUNICATIONS
There were no communications items.
AGENDA MODIFICATIONS OR POSTPONEMENTS
There were no agenda modifications or postponements.
ORAL REQUESTS
There were no oral requests.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chair Reynolds read Agenda Item No. 1 into the record as follows:
1. PLN2011-154 Public Hearing to consider the staff initiated Text Amendment
Staff (PLN2011-154) to amend the Campbell Municipal Code (Sec.
21.18.140 -Undergrounding of Utilities and Sec. 20.36.150 -
Utilities), to clarify provisions pertaining to the undergrounding
of utilities. Staff is recommending that this project be deemed
Categorically Exempt under CEQA. Tentative City Council
Meeting Date: January 7, 2013 Project Planner: Daniel Fama,
Associate Planner
Mr. Daniel Fama, Associate Planner, presented the staff report as follows:
• Said that this is a Text Amendment to modify the Undergrounding of Utilities
Ordinance.
• Provided a background. For a long time before 2004, undergrounding was required
just for commercial and larger residential projects. In 2004, a Zoning Code Update
took into account a 2001 General Plan strategy to develop an Ordinance for the
undergrounding of utilities. The Undergrounding of Utilities Ordinance was drafted
that requires new and existing lines to be placed underground. Prior to that, it was
new but not existing. Anew process for Underground Utility Waivers was created
to allow exceptions to the undergrounding requirement. In 2006, another Zoning
Code Update clarified the process of review of utility undergrounding as an
administrative action that is not appealable. In the years between 2004 and 2010,
all new homes and any addition/remodel that included relocation of a service panel
required undergrounding. During that timeframe, nearly 90 percent of the
applications for a waiver were granted for several reasons including the fact that
undergrounding was more costly; that the pole was located across the street;
and/or that there was a limited likelihood that the neighborhood would ever achieve
significant levels of utility undergrounding. Therefore, undergrounding was usually
only required if a pole was located directly in front of the home.
• Reported that in February 2011, then Director Kirk Heinrichs developed an
interpretation that any addition that represented a 50 percent increase would
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require utility undergrounding. Underground Utility Waivers were discouraged as
having little likelihood of approval. Of the five requests that came in since, four of
them were denied a waiver of the requirement. In 2011, an Undergrounding of
Utilities Ordinance update was included on the department's work plan.
• Explained that the proposed amendments reflect four areas. One is when
undergrounding is needed. Two is what grounds can warrant a waiver. Three is
when the pole is located in front of the property. Four is miscellaneous changes.
• Said that the need for undergrounding kicks in with the construction of a new
structure; with an expansion of 50 percent of existing square footage; remodeling
with a job valuation of 50 percent of existing value or more; and with subdivisions.
• Said that one specific waiver criteria necessary to grant a waiver is that the
undergrounding represents more than 15 percent of the total project cost. An
example of a situation where a waiver may be justified is if a pole is located in an
adjacent property owner's backyard and trenching would destroy their yard. Other
reasons for a waiver could include topography and/or soil conditions, which are
both highly unlikely conditions in Campbell. Reiterated that the undergrounding is
for frontage utilities.
• Stated that currently undergrounding is required for commercial, industrial and new
subdivisions. Undergrounding is required only for arterial streets where utility poles
will likely some day go away. The threshold for residential subdivisions is currently
more than five units (effectively six units). However staff is proposing that the
language read "five or more units". Undergrounding is expanding to more types of
non-residential development. Currently, schools and churches are precluded and
those uses will be captured with these amendments.
• Said that two other amendments are proposed including a clarification to
exceptions. Staff is recommending that service panel relocations be allowed
without requiring undergrounding as long as existing line length does not increase
by more than 25 percent.
• Reported that Text Amendments require Planning Commission and City Council to
find the proposed changes to be consistent with the City's General Plan; that the
amendments are not detrimental to the health, safety and welfare of the
community; and that they are consistent with the City's Zoning Code provisions.
• Said that these amendments will require undergrounding of utilities more
consistently and more often. This premise is consistent with a specific Land Use
policy of the City's General Plan. Eventually over time there will be fewer overhead
utilities.
• Recommended adoption of a resolution that recommends Council adopt this Text
Amendment to Undergrounding of Utilities and Utilities Ordinances.
Director Paul Kermoyan:
• Offered a "big picture" explanation of why this issue is before the Commission.
• Reported that the City's General Plan offers a vision. Within the General Plan there
is a specific policy directing the undergrounding of utilities. However, despite the
adoption of an Ordinance requiring the Undergrounding of Utilities, what was
actually being implemented was that undergrounding was being circumvented by
waivers. With 95 percent waived, it was clear that something was wrong with the
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Ordinance. That's why this matter is under discussion - to reestablish new
provisions to clearly implement the policy.
• Added that there has to be enough of an investment to warrant the expensive
improvement of undergrounding utilities, which can cost $15,000 or more.
• Said that the proposed draft amendments to the Undergrounding of Utilities
Ordinance is before this Commission now. However, the Commission should not
feel obligated to pass it now. If there are suggestions for improvements, please let
staff know what they are. Those suggestions could be incorporated into the draft
and brought back to a future meeting.
Commissioner Brennan asked staff how an administrative action is not appealable or
not.
City Attorney William Seligmann:
• Said that there is a legal interpretation as well as a policy concern. From a legal
standpoint, there is a significant amount of discretion that calls for hearing and right
to appeal.
• Explained that if there are objective standards, a ministerial process can be utilized
that requires neither a hearing nor an appeal process. From a policy consideration,
there must be solid objective standards. If the standards are less well-defined, a
hearing is required.
Commissioner Brennan asked what percentage of projects might have exemptions.
Planner Daniel Fama said that now they are relatively I'~imited and the undergrounding
requirement is being applied more consistently. He added that the valuations for
development are pretty consistent as the Building Department has a process of
establishing valuations for construction.
Commissioner Razumich asked about homeowners who are slowly upgrading their
property by adding hot tubs or an electric car charger requiring service upgrades.
Would that minor a project require undergrounding?
Planner Daniel Fama replied no. That is currently the case and will remain the case.
Chair Reynolds opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 1.
Chair Reynolds closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 1.
Commissioner Roseberry:
• Said that this Ordinance update is a great idea and that the undergrounding of
utilities is a good thing.
• Added that his only question is about frontage undergrounding.
• Questioned how the vision for undergrounding along streets such as Winchester
fits in with these amendments.
• Asked about the possibility of in-lieu fees to allow for future undergrounding when it
makes more sense to install them.
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Planner Daniel Fama:
• Said that the Text Amendments will ensure consistency.
• Pointed out that the frontage requirement can be waived as part of a discretionary
review.
• Added that if an in-lieu fee is appropriate, that can be determined on a case-by-
case basis.
Commissioner Roseberry asked if there is a structure in place for in-lieu fees.
Planner Daniel Fama said no. There is broad discretion on the part of the Planning
Commission and City Council's part.
Commissioner Roseberry asked how in-lieu fees could be determined.
Planner Daniel Fama replied on advice of the City Engineer. In-lieu is unusual and
usually an exception to the rule.
Commissioner Roseberry said that it might make sense to take in in-lieu fees in some
cases.
Director Paul Kermoyan:
• Said that common sense is taken into consideration.
• Added that utility poles are not always placed where it makes sense to
underground until later.
• Said that it is not codified and doesn't really need to be.
• Reminded that the frontage undergrounding is limited to arterial/image streets and
not residential streets. Right now, it is all streets.
• Added that if the Commission wants to implement an in-lieu fee component that
could be included.
Commissioner Roseberry said he just wanted to raise the idea.
Director Paul Kermoyan pointed out that what may need to be determined is what the
cost may be right now compared to what it might be five years later.
Commissioner Roseberry:
• Clarified that on a residential street with new residential development where there
are more than five new units; undergrounding of the frontage will occur even if not
on an arterial street. However, in other cases, frontage undergrounding is only
required on collector and arterial streets, which the Public Works Department
believes makes the most sense as far as potential for extensive future
undergrounding of utilities.
Commissioner Gibbons:
• Expressed agreement with many of the points raised by Commissioner Roseberry.
• Added that the Ordinance is intended to be simple.
• Said that it is important to consider bonds, in-lieu fees and deferred agreements.
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• Listed a couple of arterial streets as Hamilton and Winchester and a couple of
collector streets as Westmont and Hacienda, which serve as an illustration of both
categories.
• Stated that the standard of 50 percent of value sounds goods.
• Questioned the 50 percent cost versus assessment.
• Suggested the elimination of the 50 percent of assessment and retain the 50
percent of area.
• Stated that power lines cross panel to get to another.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that even if the pole is on an adjacent parcel, it is usually
fairly easy to underground from the pole to the house. It becomes a judgment call if a
trench must cross two properties.
Commissioner Gibbons asked what if the pole is across the street.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that backyards are more sacred. In front yards,
easements are available and open to the public for the installation of undergrounding
utilities.
Chair Reynolds said that utilities are his area of expertise. He cautioned that this
represents a Geo95 violation. They are not allowed to cross property lines but are
required to cross only on easements. What if the property is situated mid-span.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that could create complications. However, there is
usually an easement at the front to accommodate undergrounding of utilities. He
added that a 50 percent expansion is a definite call for undergrounding, including 50
percent of floor area. An owner removing half a structure and replacing it with new
space of a similar size is one reason why assessed value is considered versus cost.
Commissioner Razumich:
• Said that it is a great idea to underground utilities when it makes sense to do so.
• Added that it is expensive but he has done it many times with projects.
• Stated that it can be reasonable and fair.
• Echoed Commissioner Gibbons' comments about assessed values. He added that
it is not a strong indicator of value and is not an accurate measure.
• Said that the standard is offered of no more than 15 percent of a project's cost for
the undergrounding of utilities.
• Suggested perhaps a minimum project cost of perhaps $200,000 to require the
undergrounding of utilities.
Commissioner Finch:
• Echoed the comments made by Commissioners Razumich and Gibbons on the
issue of assessed values.
• Suggested an increase of 50 percent or more of the original square footage as a
standard. If existing square footage is demolished and rebuilt that could be taken
into consideration.
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Director Paul Kermoyan:
• Said that establishing a concise definition of a "remodel" is part of the Planning
Department's current work plan.
• Said that if just one wall of an existing structure is left that is considered to be a
new house.
• Added that new residences trigger undergrounding as there is enough investment
to warrant it.
• Agreed that establishing a dollar value of the remodel/addition could make sense.
• Concluded that taking into consideration a 600 square foot house versus a 3,000
square foot house, the dollar value may not be proportionately equal.
Commissioner Roseberry:
• Said that either dollar value or percentage could be used.
• Suggested a residential exclusion for frontage undergrounding unless the
residence is located on a feeder/arterial street. That way they only have to
underground on their property.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that is the way the Code is written today. He said that
Planning asked Public Works if they envision poles being removed. They believe only
on arterial and/or collector streets and not on residential streets.
Commissioner Roseberry asked if pole removal will be required.
Planner Daniel Fama replied that frontage undergrounding will only be required for
residential developments with more than five units and not for one single-family
residence.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that risers run up poles to help facilitate the
undergrounding of one home within an area with above-ground utilities.
Commissioner Gibbons said that the following requirements appear to trigger
undergrounding: being on either an arterial or collector street; an increase in area by
50 percent or more; a new development with five or more residences; all commercial
and everything else.
Director Paul Kermoyan:
• Reminded that undergrounding is from existing poles rather than
altogether.
• Said that the amended Ordinance offers:
o A-1 =undergrounding drops
o A-2 =Remove poles and undergrounding of all utilities.
• Agreed that the language could be made clearer.
Commissioner Gibbons:
• Said that it would be clearer as follows:
o On arterial and collector streets;
o New: A-1 & A-2;
removing poles
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o Remodel 50 percent of area plus five percent of distance of box change;
o Exception = 15 percent of value of remodel cost
o All utilities included
Planner Daniel Fama said that there are standards for pole to property utility
undergrounding including for new buildings; additions more than 50 percent and/or
with a value increase of 50 percent or more.
Commissioner Gibbons asked what if the pole is located across a street.
Planner Daniel Fama said that they would need to trench across the street.
Director Paul Kermoyan reminded that on image streets the poles would be removed
altogether.
Commissioner Roseberry:
• Said that these changes appear pretty clear as they require pole and service drops.
• Reiterated that there is no requirement for residential properties to remove frontage
poles unless it is part of a residential development. Instead they would
underground the drop.
Commissioner Gibbons:
• Suggested than an opportunity be available to enter into a deferred agreement.
• Pointed out that on her street about 70 percent of the nearby homes have already
been recently remodeled. Only a few have not.
• Questioned the wisdom of having separate drops.
Director Paul Kermoyan pointed out that there are some streets for which Public Works
will not allow cut and patch to occur.
Commissioner Gibbons asked about other utilities.
Director Paul Kermoyan:
• Said that the undergrounding applies to all utilities involving cables.
• Added that the main premise is that there has to be enough investment to warrant
imposing the cost of undergrounding utilities.
• Said that in a case where a service box needs to be moved by just two feet, the
Code as written would have required undergrounding. That didn't make sense,
which is why waivers were granted.
Commissioner Gibbons suggested that out of fairness if 60 percent of homes in a
neighborhood are already remodeled, it may not be fair to require the last few
homeowners who want to remodel their homes to have to underground their utilities.
Director Paul Kermoyan cautioned that the same logic can be used with sidewalk
installations. Over time, the area fills in.
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Commissioner Resnikoff pointed to Attachment #4 in the report A-1 representing the
portion from the pole to the property and A-2 representing the removal of poles along
frontage.
Planner Daniel Fama explained that A-1 pertains to pole to property and A-2 to
frontage utilities that run parallel with the property. A-2 is imposed on subdivisions and
commercial properties.
Commissioner Resnikoff:
• Questioned the dollar value as it applies to small expansions.
• Said that the requirement to underground may create inconsistency.
• Added that the Commission is here to help clarify the process with apro-active
review to determine the effect and/or impact of undergrounding and the number of
projects for which undergrounding is now required.
Planner Daniel Fama:
• Explained that since 2011 more undergrounding of utilities has been required.
• Added that this Text Amendment will codify the current criteria for undergrounding
that includes 50 percent of value added.
• Said that the Text Amendment will result in undergrounding of utilities as the
General Plan requires.
Commissioner Resnikoff asked if there were more waivers in the past.
Director Paul Kermoyan:
• Stated that previously waivers were granted simply because the cost to maintain
overhead lines was less than the cost to underground.
• Said that once the Undergrounding of Utilities Ordinance was adopted, the cost of
installing utility poles versus undergrounding at time of construction was compared.
• Added that as part of the Subdivision Ordinance, undergrounding is required.
• Said that a waiver requirement was created for properties located within a built out
neighborhood.
• Pointed out that it will always be cheaper to keep overhead utilities versus
undergrounding utilities.
Commissioner Resnikoff said that this Amendment is not just to update the Code but
also to reduce waivers and to make requirements for undergrounding stricter.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that the goal is to develop objective standards that are
known in advance.
Commissioner Resnikoff said that implementing changes will result in most waivers
being denied. He added that he thought that these changes were to be more
consistent and/or rigid in its standards and removing the reasons for waivers.
Planner Daniel Fama said that the Ordinance wasn't working. It was broken given the
number of waivers granted until 2011.
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Commissioner Resnikoff said that the amendments are more complex than he had
originally thought.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that this update can be brought back with modifications
or moved forward as the Commission prefers.
Commissioner Brennan suggested using actual construction cost versus 50 percent of
the structure's assessed value.
Commissioner Razumich agreed that using assessed value is not the way to go. He
also questioned what percentage of cost for undergrounding makes sense.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that perhaps the standard of 50 percent of altering an
existing structure.
Planner Daniel Fama said that precedent exists when considering streetscape
improvements. Those are based on the square footage of the remodel.
Commissioner Razumich asked if 15% of the overall cost of construction is a fair
standard.
Commissioner Roseberry said that the Commission has given staff great direction. He
agreed that permit values is a great place to go. He suggested that this Text
Amendment be revised and brought back with better criteria for imposing
undergrounding of utilities.
Commissioner Gibbons pointed out that some communities, such as Dublin, CA, have
established square footage valuations for both remodel and new construction.
Commissioner Resnikoff supported establishing a square footage cost or increasing
square footage by 50 percent of the existing or more.
Commissioner Brennan supported establishing a dollar amount. He added that square
footage is a way to capture cost.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that staff could return with a revised Ordinance removing
the 50 percent rule on assessed value and using the project cost instead. He added
that perhaps a minimum construction cost of $200,000 or more could be the standard
to trigger undergrounding.
Commissioner Roseberry asked that staff come back with definitions on triggers for
undergrounding.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that it is policy within the General Plan for
undergrounding to occur with new construction and a substantial remodel. What
needs to be better defined is what represents a substantial remodel.
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Commissioner Finch asked about the waiver process and agreed that it is an excellent
idea to establish a cost per square foot standard as Commissioner Gibbons
recommended.
Chair Reynolds pointed to page 4 of the report that mentions cumulative increase in
floor area over afive-year period. He suggested that permits for additions be recorded
on a deed so new owners are aware.
Commissioner Gibbons pointed out that the San Tomas Area Plan has the same five-
year cumulative time frame. She asked staff if there have been problems with
enforcing it.
Director Paul Kermoyan:
• Said that staff typically researches for any history of additions for every new project
under review.
• Added that when building permits are issued the valuation is provided by the
contractor and the Building Official reviews and accepts it.
• Questioned whether requiring an appraisal is being suggested.
• Advised that conditioning recordation can be considered. It is done for covenants
and/or deed restrictions against a property.
• Stated that architects could be asked to put language on plans to reflect what
percentage an addition represents as a part of the 50 percent maximum allowed
prior to requiring undergrounding.
Planner Daniel Fama said that deed restrictions for accessory structures and
secondary living units are specifically allowed for under the Zoning Ordinance.
Chair Reynolds asked if the preferred action of the Commission this evening is for a
continuance.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Brennan, seconded by
Commissioner Resnikoff, the Planning Commission continued to
a date uncertain the consideration of a Text Amendment
(PLN2011-154) to amend the Campbell Municipal Code (Sec.
21.18.140 - Undergrounding of Utilities and Sec. 20.36.150 -
Utilities). (7-0)
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REPORT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
Interim Director Paul Kermoyan advised that there were no additions to his written
report.
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ADJOURNMENT
The Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 9:05 p.m. to the next Regular
Planning Commission Meeting of December 11, 2012 (the meeting of November 27,
2012 will be cancelled).
SUBMITTED BY
APPROVED BY:
ATTEST:
Corinne inn, Recording Secretary