PC Min - 01/28/2020CITY OF CAMPBELL PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
7:30 P.M. TUESDAY
JAN UARY 28, 2020
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
The Planning Commission meeting of January 28, 2020, was called to order at 7:30 p.m.,
in the Council Chambers, 70 North First Street, Campbell, California by Chair Krey and
the following proceedings were had, to wit:
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: Chair:
Michael Krey
Commissioner:
Adam Buchbinder
Commissioner:
Stuart Ching
Commissioner:
Nick Colvill
Commissioner:
Terry Hines
Commissioners Absent: Vice Chair:
Maggie Ostrowski
Commissioner:
Andrew Rivlin
Staff Present: Community
Development Director:
Paul Kermoyan
Assistant Planner:
Naz Pouya Healy
City Attorney:
William Seligmann
Recording Secretary:
Corinne Shinn
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Upon motion by Commissioner Buchbinder, seconded by
"Commissioner Colvill, the Planning Commission minutes of the
meeting of January 14, 2020, were approved as submitted. (4-0-2-1;
Commissioners Ostrowski and Rivlin were absent and Commissioner
Ching abstained).
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COMMUNICATIONS
None
AGENDA MODIFICATIONS OR POSTPONEMENTS
None
ORAL REQUESTS
None
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chair Krey read Agenda Item No. 1 into the record as follows:
1. PLN2019-123 Public Hearing to consider the application of Susan Chen for a Site
and Architectural Review Permit (PLN2019-123) to allow the
construction of a new approximately 4,357 square -foot two-story
single-family residence on property located at 1420 Van Dusen
Lane. Staff is recommending that this item be deemed
Categorically Exempt under CEQA. Planning Commission action
final unless appealed in in writing to the City Clerk within 10
calendar days. Project Planner: Naz Pouya Healy, Assistant
Planner
Ms. Naz Pouya Healy, Assistant Planner, provided the staff report.
Chair Krey asked if there were questions for staff.
Commissioner Ching asked what trees on site might be removed, if any.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy replied there are a few trees and none of those are protected
species trees. One or two from the front may be removed.
Commissioner Buchbinder asked what is currently on this property.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy said there is a small single -story home of approximately 1,000
square feet in size.
Chair Krey asked if having a second story that is larger than the first is unusual. It's not
unique?
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Planner Naz Pouya Healy said that it's not actually larger but proportionally the second
floor has more square footage compared to nearby homes.
Chair Krey asked staff to verify that there are no red flags with that.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy said that such a situation would result in a boxier appearance
of a residence.
Commissioner Ching pointed out that there are three substantial trees in the front. Which
of these are remaining?
Planner Naz Pouya Healy pointed to two trees on the site plan as proposed for removal
from the front yard.
Commissioner Hines provided the Site and Architectural Review Committee report as
follows:
• SARC found this home to fit in with the requirements of the San Tomas Area
Neighborhood Plan.
• Stated that SARC appreciated the front elevation including the number of windows
there that will provide this home with good interior natural light.
• Concluded that this design respected the limitations.
Chair Krey opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 1.
Diana Meek, Resident on Harriet Court:
• Stated her concern is the plan for the existing Heavens trees from the back yard.
• Cautioned that those trees must be carefully removed including roots as it is a very
invasive species that pops up everywhere.
• Added that upon removal, the stump(s) must be grinded, and some sort of chemical
put on the stump to permanently remove that nuisance species of tree.
• Reiterated that there is a process for their removal that important to the neighbors on
the other side due to on -going impacts from those Heaven trees.
Michael Meek added that they are back neighbors to the project site.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy said that the applicant wants to remove those trees. They are
not protected. Therefore, the City is not involved with their removal.
Michael Meek asked if these owners would need a permit for their removal.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy replied no.
Michael Meek reiterated that these Heavens trees have a large root system.
Chair Krey recommended that the Meeks approach these new neighbors to discuss their
concerns and suggestions.
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Planner Naz Pouya Healy said that working with these owners will be important as they
won't want these trees to reproduce either if they are to be removed.
Commissioner Hines suggested that the Meeks ask staff to let the owners know of their
concern about what must occur when those back trees are removed to avoid invasion on
surrounding properties.
Michael Meek said that this would impact three adjacent backyards.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that off-line staff would let the owners know of this neighbor
concern.
Chair Krey closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 1.
Commissioner Ching asked if a landscaping diagram is available.
Commissioner Hines referred him to page 45 of Attachment 3.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy clarified that that page depicts the required front yard
landscaping. On page 30, the Commission will find the site plan that shows and has
information about existing trees on site.
Chair Krey verified with staff that none of the trees on site are protected species.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy replied correct.
Commissioner Buchbinder said that this proposed home looks to be in character with its
neighborhood. It is similar to the nearby houses. He has no issues.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Colvill, seconded by Commissioner
Hines, the Planning Commission adopted Resolution No. 4558
approving a Site and Architectural Review Permit (PLN2019-123) to
allow the construction of a new approximately 4,357 square -foot
two-story single-family residence on property located at 1420 Van
Dusen Lane, by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Buchbinder, Ching, Colvill, Hines and Krey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Ostrowski and Rivlin
ABSTAIN: None
Chair Krey advised that this action is final unless appealed in writing to the City Clerk
within 10 calendar days.
Chair Krey read Agenda Item No. 2 into the record as follows:
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2. PLN2019-77 Public Hearing to consider the application of Susan Chen for a Site
and Architectural Review Permit (PLN2019-77) to allow the
construction of a new approximately 3,103 square -foot two-story
single-family residence on property located at 1147 S San Tomas
Aquino Road. Staff is recommending that this item be deemed
Categorically Exempt under CEQA. Planning Commission action
final unless appealed in in writing to the City Clerk within 10
calendar days. Project Planner: Naz Pouya Healy, Assistant
Planner
Ms. Naz Pouya Healy, Assistant Planner, provided the staff report.
Chair Krey asked if there were questions for staff.
Commissioner Colvill:
• Asked about the proposed balcony at the back.
• Pointed out the condition that requires full height side walls to either side of that
balcony.
• Added that requirement is similar to what the Commission has seen in the past.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy replied correct.
Commissioner Buchbinder asked if balconies like this appear elsewhere in this area.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy replied that she didn't see any in the immediate area, but they
are not prohibited. She added that the STANP encourages side walls and additional
screening landscaping with balconies.
Commissioner Ching asked if the large pine tree at the front of this property is proposed
for removal.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy replied yes. She added that a large Walnut tree at the back of
this property would remain.
Commissioner Hines provided the Site and Architectural Review Committee report as
follows:
• SARC discussed the proposed balcony.
• Added that it is conditioned as described by staff.
• Stated that there are a good number of windows on this home to help break up the
front elevation and bring light into the house.
• Concluded that SARC was supportive of this proposed home.
Chair Krey opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2.
Eric Garlick, Resident on Chamberlain Court:
• Explained that his back yard faces the front yard of this subject property.
• Stated that he has looked at their plans.
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• Added that as he too has a two-story home, he has no objection to this family having
one as well.
• Pointed out that it seems like this home is situated close to the street and he does
object to that. That concern is the primary reason he came this evening to speak to
the Commission.
• Stated that he would like to see the front setback adjusted.
• Reported that his concern with a smaller front setback is privacy impacts.
• Suggested that if possible, the large tree there in front be retained to offer some
screening between the two homes. The neighbors generally appreciate that tree's
screening.
Chair Krey closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2.
Commissioner Ching:
• Said that he would like to see both the large front and rear yard trees retained.
• Stated that the large Pine in front adds to the character of the street. It would be a
loss if it were to be removed.
• Added that the Walnut tree at the back is substantial in size.
• Pointed out that Turner Lane is narrow, and he suggested an increased front setback
for the home.
Commissioner Colvill asked Commissioner Ching what setback he might find more
acceptable. If the front setback of this proposed home matches the existing neighbors'
homes, would that be acceptable?
Commissioner Ching replied yes.
Commissioner Buchbinder asked if the minimum 20-foot front setback has been met.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy said that the setbacks are 24-feet on one side and 32-feet on
the other. The 20-foot standard is the minimum setback standard.
Director Paul Kermoyan said that the second story is setback 28 feet, 4 inches from the
front property line. The first story is setback between 25 and 27 feet.
Commissioner Colvill asked what impact might occur if asked to push the home further
back.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy said that doing so would most likely impact the large tree in the
back yard.
Commissioner Colvill asked if the large Pine at the front is required to be removed.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy:
• Responded that tree is not protected. She added she's not aware of why they want to
remove it.
• Added that the large Walnut in the back is to be retained.
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Chair Krey asked staff if the Commission could require the retention of the large Pine at
the front.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy:
• Replied yes.
• Added that she is not sure of its health as there is a bit of a lean toward the road.
• Suggested that it might need pruning around the power lines.
Commissioner Colvill said it might not be an imposition given that this house is being built
for sale.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy clarified that the applicant, Susan Cheng, is not the owner but
prepared the plans for this home. She doesn't know the owners' intentions for the
property.
Chair Krey re -opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item 2.
Mrs. Szu-Tsung Wang, Property Owner, 1147 S. San Tomas Aquino Road:
• Pointed out that the tree under discussion is growing over and across the road.
• Stated their desire and intent is to remove that tree as part of the demolition of the
current home on site. Her contractor advised her it is more economical to do both the
structure demo and tree removal at the same time.
• Added that this tree would block a lot of sunshine from coming into their home.
Chair Krey asked the owner about her thoughts on possibly requiring an expanded front
setback.
Mrs. Szu-Tsung Wang, Property Owner, 1147 S. San Tomas Aquino Road:
• Reported that they have already moved the home further back than originally planned.
• Said that was as much as possible while retaining a backyard for her children to run
and play.
• Added that she can understand her neighbor's concern, but it seems as if the existing
trees across the road already offers privacy screening to that home.
Commissioner Colvill asked the owner if an arborist's report is obtained that indicates the
tree is in great health, would she consider retaining it?
Mrs. Szu-Tsung Wang, Property Owner, 1147 S. San Tomas Aquino Road, reminded that
her second concern is the blocking of light into the house with that large Pine in place.
Commissioner Colvill pointed out that the Commission has the authority to require that
tree's retention.
Mrs. Szu-Tsung Wang, Property Owner, 1147 S. San Tomas Aquino Road:
• Pointed out that the roots for that tree might impact her home's foundation in the
future.
• Said it could become an issue later on if it continues to lean. It could fall over.
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Chair Krey asked staff if the Commission could require the retention of the large Pine at
the front.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy:
• Replied yes.
• Added that she is not sure of its health as there is a bit of a lean toward the road.
• Suggested that it might need pruning around the power lines.
Commissioner Colvill said it might not be an imposition given that this house is being built
for sale.
Planner Naz Pouya Healy clarified that the applicant, Susan Cheng, is not the owner but
prepared the plans for this home. She doesn't know the owners' intentions for the
property.
Chair Krey re -opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item 2.
Mrs. Szu-Tsung Wang, Property Owner, 1147 S. San Tomas Aquino Road:
• Pointed out that the tree under discussion is growing over and across the road.
• Stated their desire and intent is to remove that tree as part of the demolition of the
current home on site. Her contractor advised her it is more economical to do both the
structure demo and tree removal at the same time.
• Added that this tree would block a lot of sunshine from coming into their home.
Chair Krey asked the owner about her thoughts on possibly requiring an expanded front
setback.
Mrs. Szu-Tsung Wang, Property Owner, 1147 S. San Tomas Aquino Road:
• Reported that they have already moved the home further back than originally planned.
• Said that was as much as possible while retaining a backyard for her children to run
and play.
• Added that she can understand her neighbor's concern, but it seems as if the existing
trees across the road already offers privacy screening to that home.
Commissioner Colvill asked the owner if an arborist's report is obtained that indicates the
tree is in great health, would she consider retaining it?
Mrs. Szu-Tsung Wang, Property Owner, 1147 S. San Tomas Aquino Road, reminded that
her second concern is the blocking of light into the house with that large Pine in place.
Commissioner Colvill pointed out that the Commission has the authority to require that
tree's retention.
Mrs. Szu-Tsung Wang, Property Owner, 1147 S. San Tomas Aquino Road:
• Pointed out that the roots for that tree might impact her home's foundation in the
future.
• Said it could become an issue later on if it continues to lean. It could fall over.
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Commissioner Ching:
• Stated that if an arborist report determines this Pine to be dangerous, he would like to
see it replaced with a protected -species tree to ensure long-term retention of the
replacement tree.
• Added that the tree selected could be left to the satisfaction of the Community
Development Director.
Commissioner Hines said he would support the planting of a protected species as a
replacement.
Commissioner Ching said that this is a substantial tree that he'd like to keep unless
proven to be dangerous.
Commissioner Ching reiterated his support for an arborist report to support its removal.
Commissioner Buchbinder suggested that if preparation of an arborist report is
conditioned, the condition should not require this applicant to return to the Planning
Commission.
Director Paul Kermoyan:
• Suggested that the Commission tighten their conditions giving direction to staff, so it
doesn't have to be brought back to the Commission.
• Added that the Commission should describe what they want to see included within the
arborist report. What they want the report to achieve. Exactly what happens if the
arborist supports the removal and/or retention of that tree.
Commissioner Colvill:
• Said that he can understand the owner's desire for a larger back yard for their kids
and a future ADU.
• Suggested focusing the arborist report on the front tree.
Commissioner Ching agreed.
Commissioner Hines said he doesn't agree.
Director Paul Kermoyan:
• Said that the landscape plan shows one tree.
• Added that Condition of Approval 4-B requires the planting of three more trees as they
need four trees on their property per the STANP.
• Said that a condition can specify the tree(s) for the front property as to what is planted.
• Explained that as to processing tree removal permits, staff issues tree removal permits
a lot.
• Stated that he would have no issue approving a removal permit for this tree on this
property. It is a precarious tree.
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Commissioner Colvill:
• Agreed that it is important that these owners are able to enjoy as much natural
sunlight from their home as possible.
• Cautioned that with the need to plant more trees at the front of this property, there is
potential for those trees to also obscure sunlight from the front.
Commissioner Hines asked staff what direction, the home's frontage faces.
Director Paul Kermoyan :
• Replied that the home's frontage faces south.
• Said that Pine trees can grow tall.
• Stated that it would be important for these owners to select trees that don't grow too
tall while still providing privacy screening sought by the neighbor across the road.
• Added that there is an ability to size the tree and perhaps start with a 10-foot tall tree.
Commissioner Hines said he was in favor of that requirement.
Commissioner Colvill said that neighbor was concerned about both the front setback and
this large Pine tree being removed.
Chair Krey stated that the proposed requirement to expand the front setback beyond the
current 20-foot standard to 24 foot for this house could represent a precedent going
forward.
Commissioner Colvill said he is in favor of the applicant's proposed setback.
Commissioner Buchbinder:
• Agreed with Commissioner Colvill in supporting the applicant's proposed setback:
• 'Pointed out that the porch is set back by approximately 20 feet and the rest of the
house is set back further.
• Concluded that it is not worth further increasing the front setback..
Commissioner Ching:
• Said that he defers to the Director about the need for an arborist report at this time. It
seems it would just be a waste of time to secure one.
• Agreed that a replacement tree for,the removal of the large Pine should be 10 to 15-
feet tall of a protected tree species.
• Added that the large Walnut in the back should be maintained.
Commissioner Hines said he was good with that.
Commissioner Colvill stated that it appears he is the only one left trying to keep the large
Pine tree intact and seeking an arborist report prior- to allowing its removal.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Ching, seconded by Commissioner
Colvill, the Planning Commission adopted Resolution No. 4559
approving a Site and Architectural Review Permit (PLN2019-77) to
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allow the construction of a new approximately 3,103 square -foot
two-story single-family residence on property located at 1147 S San
Tomas Aquino Road, with the following conditions:
• That an arborist report be prepared on the large Pine tree. This
tree should be retained if the arborist report finds no significant
risk of it falling. If it does pose a risk, the large Pine tree shall be
replaced with a 10 to 15-foot tall tree of a protected species; and
• That the large Walnut tree in the backyard is to be retained;
by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Buchbinder, Ching, Colvill and Krey
NOES: Hines
ABSENT: Ostrowski and Rivlin
ABSTAIN: None
Chair Krey advised that this action is final unless appealed in writing to the City Clerk
within 10 calendar days.
REPORT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
Director Paul Kermoyan had no additions to his written report.
Commissioner Hines:
• Said that he'd like to discuss Council's action to grant an appeal overturning the
Planning Commission's decision on Chick-Fil-A.
• Stated that there seems to be a disconnect between what the Planning Commission
and Council reviews.
• Pointed out that the Planning Commission considers the General Plan when projects
are presented to them. This project met the standards of the General Plan.
• Expressed concern on the significant amount of time staff put into this project yet it
was not acceptable to the City Council.
• Stated that there is a "disconnect" there.
• Reminded that the .General Plan is coming forward soon. It seems that the current
General Plan doesn't fit with our community as it stands today.
Commissioner Colvill:
• Agreed that there is frustration with the differences in how the Planning Commission
and the City Council sees things.
• Added that its not as black and white as it should be.
• Opined that this appeal overturning the Planning Commission approval goes against
logic and the hard work of the Planning Commission. Having such decisions
overturned is something to think about.
Commissioner Hines said he is not concerned that the Planning Commission's decision
was overturned.
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City Attorney William Seligmann cautioned that the Commission is getting too broadly into
discussion of an item that is not on tonight's calendar for any form of action.
Commissioner Hines said it is an issue that needs to be addressed.
Commissioner Buchbinder said it would be addressed with the updates to the General
Plan.
City Attorney William Seligmann:
• Reiterated that if the Planning Commission wants to discuss this subject more fully, it
should be added to a future PC meeting agenda.
• Added that in order to pass something forward on to Council, there would need to be
an agendized discussion and recommendation.
Commissioner Hines said he simply wanted to express his personal opinion and he has
done so.
Director Paul Kermoyan:
• Pointed out that Council's granting an Appeal and overturning the PC's decision for
Chick-Fil-A was included on his Director's Report for this evening's meeting.
• Explained to the Planning Commissioners that Council looks at different things than
the Planning Commission does.
• Assured the PC that they did a job and did it well. This is just the process.
Chair Krey asked staff if members of the Planning Commission can address Council at
one of their meetings.
Director Paul Kermoyan replied sure. He suggested moving forward to agendize it for a
future PC meeting and come up with something to send on to Council.
Commissioner Buchbinder said it's worth discussing. It seems an important issue.
Commissioner Hines agreed.
Chair Krey directed staff to move forward to add this discussion topic to the next available
PC meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
The Planning Commission meeting adjourned 'at 8:35 p.m. to the next Regular Planning
Commission Meeting of February 11, 2020.
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SUBMITTED BY:
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ATTEST:
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