PC Min 05/14/1996CITY OF CAMPBELL PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
7:30 P.M. TUESDAY
MAY 14, 1996
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
The Planning Commission meeting of May 14, 1996, was called to order at 7:30
p.m., in the Council Chambers, 70 North First Street, Campbell, California by
Chairman Lindstrom, and the following proceedings were had, to wit:
Chairman Lindstrom took a moment to welcome and introduce newest Planning
Commissioner, Elizabeth Gibbons. Commissioner Gibbons expressed her
appreciation of her appointment to the Commission.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present:
Chair:
Vice Chair:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Mel Lindstrom
Susan A. Kearns
I. Alne
Elizabeth Gibbons
Brad Jones
Dennis Lowe
Jane Meyer-Kennedy
Commissioners Absent: None
Staff Present:
Community
Development Director: Steve Piasecki
Senior Planner: Darryl M. Jones
Planner I: Aki Honda
City Attorney: William Seligmann
Reporting Secretary: Corinne A. Shinn
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: On motion of Commissioner Meyer-Kennedy, seconded by
Commissioner Lowe, the Planning Commission minutes of April
23, 1996, were approved. (5-0-0-2; Chairman Lindstrom and
Commissioner Gibbons abstained from the vote as neither was in
attendance at the April 23rd meeting.)
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COMMUNICATIONS
There were no communication items.
AGENDA MODIFICATIONS OR POSTPONEMENTS
There were no agenda modifications or postponements.
ORAL REQUESTS:
There were no oral requests.
PUBLIC HEARING
Chairman Lindstrom read Agenda Item No. 1 into the record.
1. M 96-03
Continued Public Hearing to consider the application of Mr.
Mark Robson, on behalf of Santa Clara Development, for
approval of a Modification to a Tentative Subdivision (TS 95-
02) to allow two streetlights on a newly created residential
street to be known as Summerfield Drive (former address 1522
McCoy Avenue) in an R-l-6 (Single Family Residential)
Zoning District.
Mr. Steve Piasecki, Community Development Director advised the Commission
that the applicant, Mr. Mark Robson, has again requested continuance to the
meeting of June 11, 1996.,
Chairman Lindstrom opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2.
Motion:
Upon motion of Commissioner Meyer-Kennedy, seconded by
Commissioner Alne, the Planning Commission moved to
continued this application (M 96-03) to the Planning Commission
meeting of June 11,1996. (7-0)
2. M 96-04
Public Hearing to consider the application of Pacific Concept
Systems for approval of a Modification to a previously
approved Conditional Use Permit (UP 93-06) to allow an on-
sale beer and wine license for a new restaurant, California
Chicken Rollers, on property located at 10 E. Hamilton
Avenue in a C-1-S (Neighborhood Commercial) Zoning
District.
Ms. Aki Honda, Planner I, presented the staff report as follows:
· Modification to a previous Use Permit to allow on-sale beer and wine sales in
conjunction with a new restaurant (California Chicken Rollers) in the space
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at 10 E. Hamilton Avenue formerly occupied by the French Bread Cafe.
The Use Permit for the French Bread Cafe allowed outdoor seating.
Proposed use is consistent with the General Plan and Zoning designations
and staff finds it consistent with the surrounding neighborhood.
Restaurant will operate in a similar fashion to the previous restaurant with
the addition of the on-sale beer and wine.
Campbell Police has reviewed this application and has no objection.
Staff recommends approval.
Commissioner Lowe thanked staff for the diagram depicting other establishments
in the vicinity with beer and wine licenses and had no other questions.
Chairman Lindstrom opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2.
There were no parties interested in addressing this item.
Chairman Lindstrom closed Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2.
Motion:
Upon motion of Commissioner Meyer-Kennedy, seconded by
Commissioner Jones, the Planning Commission moved to adopt
Resolution No. 3027 approving a Modification to a previously
approved Conditional Use Permit (UP 93-06) to allow on sale beer
and wine sales in conjunction with a restaurant (California
Chicken Rollers) on property located at 10 E. Hamilton Avenue, by
the following vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Alne, Gibbons, Jones, Kearns, Lindstrom, Lowe, Meyer-Kennedy
None
None
None
The decision of the Planning Commission is final, unless appealed in writing to
the City Clerk within 10 days.
MISCELLANEOUS
3. SA 96-17
Hearing to consider the application of Hollywood Video for
approval of a Sign Application to allow two wall signs on
property located at 1875 S. Bascom Avenue in a C-2-S (General
Commercial) Zoning District.
Mr. Darryl M. Jones, Senior Planner, presented the staff report as follows:
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Applicant is seeking an exception to the Sign Ordinance to allow two wall
signs for Hollywood Video of 57 square feet each. The Ordinance allows 50
square feet.
Hollywood Video will occupy new space in the Pruneyard and this space will
be partially obscured by the new Bank of America building.
Staff worked with the applicant to modify their original proposal.
Compromises were made and the applicant has centered their sign rather
than off-setting them and has reduced the initially proposed background
details.
A corner site is allowed two wall signs. The two proposed 57 square foot
signs exceed the sign ordinance by a total of 14 square feet.
The background detail was reduced but embellished.
The SARC meeting at which the application would normally have been
considered had already been canceled by the time this application was
received. Therefore, SARC held a special session meeting this evening (May
14, 1996) at 7 p.m., just prior to the Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Kearns presented the SARC report as follows:
SARC supports the revised sign proposal with the signage to be centered and
the reduction of the proposed background.
Chairman Lindstrom asked for verification of the square footage of these two
signs.
Mr. Darryl Jones responded that each of the signs would be 57 square feet.
Commissioner Alne asked why the applicant was proposing 57 square feet when
only 50 square feet are allowed under the Sign Ordinance. Can any compelling
reason be provided to overlook the Ordinance?
Mr. Darryl Jones responded that staff evaluated established criteria and found
three to apply to this request:
1. The tenant space is partially obscured from the street frontage.
2. This is a new building with frontage on two streets.
3. The proposed signage is necessary to identify the business.
Commissioner Alne reiterated his question, what reason is there for a 57 square
foot sign when the Ordinance allows 50 square feet?
Mr. Darryl Jones responded that the larger sign fits with the scale of the space in
the shopping center. Additionally, the space is partially obscured.
Commissioner Alne asked how this possible exception might impact future
application review.
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Mr. Darryl Jones replied that criteria is reviewed for all requests for exceptions.
Commissioner Alne asked if there was a legal comparison to substantiate this
approval.
Mr. Darryl Jones mentioned that there are factors such as the setback distance, the
fact that the site is partially obscured by another building and that a larger sign
allows greater visibility and identification.
Commissioner Meyer-Kennedy asked for clarification about the yellow neon
lights proposed.
Mr. Darryl Jones advised the Commission that the yellow neon lights are used to
replicate search lights.
Mr. Matthew Howarth, Hollywood Entertainment, Applicant:
· The neon appears above the mural. It is not flashing but rather simply
exposed neon tubing.
· Their proposed color scheme is similar to that used on the Bank of America
building.
Commissioner Meyer-Kennedy asked whether the Hollywood Video site is west
of the current Bank of America location.
Commissioner Gibbons responded that the site was formerly occupied by Pool,
Patio & Things.
Commissioner Lowe advised that the applicant has reduced the lights from four
to two.
Chairman Lindstrom asked whether the lights are counted as part of the sign.
Mr. Darryl Jones replied that the lights are not counted but rather are an
architectural feature.
Chairman Lindstrom asked whether the awning in the Oil Changers request was
counted as part of the signage area.
Mr. Darryl Jones replied that the awning was not counted, just the lettering. The
wording was acceptable, however, the architectural compatibility of the awning
was not.
Commissioner Alne asked whether the Commission could object to the
architectural background of this proposed sign.
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Chairman Lindstrom expressed his concern that exceptions to the Sign Ordinance
were supposed to be limited.
Commissioner Lowe mentioned that the background was painted and highlighted
by neon.
Mr. Matthew Howarth concurred with Commissioner Lowe.
Commissioner Meyer-Kennedy asked where else in Campbell is neon utilized.
Has concerns about flashing neon.
Mr. Matthew Howarth advised the Commission that the neon would not be
flashing and cited Bradley Video as a business using neon.
Mr. Steve Piasecki, Community Development Director, advised that most of the
neon used in Campbell is used in windows but dted LZ Premiums in addition to
Bradley Video as an example of a sign with neon.
Commissioner Alne asked who would be painting the portion of the building
(background for sign). He stated that the background is part of the sign and is too
large for the building.
Mr. Matthew Howarth advised that any elevation must be approved by the
property owners, William Wilson & Associates.
Mr. Steve Piasecki added that staff, as a rule, does not count the background as sign
area. Additionally, the applicant has modified their signing proposal to meet staff
requirements to shrink the sign and to provide an interesting background with a
mural like appearance. This should make the sign more interesting.
Chairman Lindstrom opined that it would be better if they could see what the sign
and the background mural are supposed to look like.
Commissioner Lowe added that the rendering provided does not do iustice to the
sign.
Commissioner Meyer-Kennedy asked whether SARC was comfortable with the
proposed sign.
Commissioner Lowe responded that they were comfortable. The second drawing
provided this evening is misleading. The final proposal is more muted in color
palette.
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Mr. Matthew Howarth added that they have tied in and toned down the colors
with the center.
Commissioner Meyer-Kennedy again asked whether SARC was satisfied and
comfortable.
Commissioner Lowe advised that he was supportive of the toned down colors and
he was personally happy with the sign proposal.
Commissioner Kearns added that staff has also reviewed the proposal.
Mr. Matthew Howarth stated that he would work closely with staff in the final
sign details.
Commissioner Gibbons stated that the mural is intended to serve as an
architectural feature to tie the sign in with the building. The sign includes
plexiglass individual letters with neon serving as accent features.
Mr. Matthew Howarth advised that dties measure lettering size in different
manners. Some measure the highest and the lowest point. Their lettering style is
staggered which using that format makes it appear to be larger than it actually is.
If their lettering was positioned in a straight line, the lettering could be larger.
Commissioner Lowe asked staff if they could confirm this point.
Mr. Darryl Jones replied that Mr. Howarth was correct.
Commissioner Alne asked how much area is represented in the mural of the
Hollywood Hills that is proposed to appear below the lettering? He added that he
felt it was a stretch to call this element an architectural feature. This area should
be calculated as part of the sign. Therefore, the actual sign of the applicant's
proposed sign is significantly larger.
Mr. Matthew Howarth also mentioned that the Conditions of Approval allow the
sign to be illuminated until 11 p.m. He asks that the language be modified on that
condition as he will be filing a Conditional Use Permit application to obtain
approval of operational hours to midnight.
Commissioner Jones advised that he would like to see a sample Hollywood Video
sign prior to making a decision. Stated that he agreed with Commissioner Alne.
This is a major intersection. Anything approved risks generating other extreme
signing requests. Suggested a two week continuance to allow the Commissioners
to visit one Hollywood Video site to observe the sign.
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Mr. Steve Piasecki advised that the Commission would need to continue this item
to the June llth Planning Commission meeting as the May 28th meeting has been
canceled.
Commissioner Jones asked whether this delay would adversely impact the
applicant.
Mr. Steve Piasecki responded that it would not.
Mr. Matthew Howarth interjected that it would because they have a scheduled
grand opening date of June 22nd. The builders will be delivering a shell to
Hollywood Video who will then handle the completion of the interior.
Mr. Steve Piasecki agreed that the continuance should then be for the meeting of
May 28th or that temporary signage be used by the applicant until final approval is
obtained.
Chairman Lindstrom again stated that they should get away from too many
exceptions to the Sign Ordinance or other applicants will want exceptions. The
main question appears to be whether the background proposed should be counted
as sign area or as background.
Commissioner Lowe stated that a delay is a disservice to the applicant and a
decision should be made this evening. The sign has been tastefully done and
meets the center's needs. The signs should be up when the business opens up.
Commissioner Kearns stated that she agreed with Commissioner Lowe.
Commissioner ^lne stated that these were artificial impediments. If the City were
responsible for creating the problem, the Commission might have reason for
concern. However, no one but the applicant is responsible for creating the design
of this sign. "The problem is the applicant's, not ours."
Commissioner Lowe stated that the premise regarding the backdrop is a "grey"
area that is left to interpretation by the applicant, the City and the Planning
Commission. Applicant has done what they could.
Commissioner Gibbons said that she supported Commissioner Lowe's opinion.
The effort taken indicates lot of thought. Based on staff review, the background is
not counted in previous approvals. Recommends action on the proposal.
Mr. Steve Piasecki advised that time is of the essence and a meeting can be held in
two weeks, on May 28th.
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Commissioner Jones stated that this is an important center in the City. It is worth
a delay to be sure that the Commission's decision is right. It needs to be looked
into further. A determination needs to be made if the background is counted as
an architectural feature or part of the sign.
Commissioner Meyer-Kennedy added that she is concerned about future requests.
Motion:
Upon motion of Commissioner Jones. seconded by Commissioner
Alne, the Planning Commission moved to continue the Sign
Application (SA 95-17) for Hollywood Videos to the Planning
Commission meeting of May 28, 1996. (6-0)
Mr. Steve Piasecki asked the applicant to bring a mural depicting the background.
Additionally, staff can bring examples of past sign approvals.
Chairman Lindstrom added that the sign itself is already 14 square feet larger
before consideration of whether to count the background.
Commissioner Kearns asked where the nearest Hollywood Video is locally.
Mr. Matthew Howarth responded that the nearest is at E1 Camino Real and San
Tomas Expressway.
Mr. Steve Piasecki advised that staff will photograph the Hollywood Video sign.
He added that the typical Hollywood Video sign is drab, not to insult the applicant.
The proposed mural would make it more interesting.
REPORT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
The written report of Mr. Steve Piasecki, Community Development Director was
accepted as presented with the following comments:
Announced that the City Manager is leaving for the City of Cypress. His last
day is in late June.
· Governor Wilson signed SB 1073 which extends the deadline for Housing
Element Updates for two years, to 1999.
· The Historic Preservation Board Tea is scheduled for Wednesday, May 15,
1996, at 5:30 p.m.
· Two Planning Commission decisions have been appealed, the Oil Changers
sign which was denied and the Site and Architectural Approval for 1222
Harriet Avenue, which allowed five new single-story residences, had two
appeals. Staff believes that the issues will be resolved prior to the Council
meeting on the Harriet Avenue project.
Commissioner Jane Meyer-Kennedy advised that she had seen a photograph of
the barn in the paper. "It looks burned out."
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Mr. Steve Piasecki advised that the photograph was of the barn. The carriage
house is the building that the neighboring property owner is interested in
preserving. The City has authorized an arborist to review the oak tree to make a
final determination whether the tree can be preserved.
ADJOURNMENT
The Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 8:22 p.m. to the next Planning
Commission meeting of May 28, 1996, at 7:30 p.m., in the Council Chambers, City
Hall, 70 North First Street, Campbell, California.
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