PC Min 03/14/19891
PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF CAMPBELL, CALIFORNIA
7:30 P.M.
MINUTES
MARCH 14, 1989
The Planning Commission of the City of Campbell convened this day in regular
session in the City Hall Council Chambers, 70 N. First St., Campbell,
California.
ROLL CALL
Present Commissioners: George Kasolas, Jay Perrine,
Ronald Christ, Robert Stanton, James Walker,
DuWayne Dickson, Bruce Olszewski; Planning
Director Steve Piasecki, Principal Planner
Phil Stafford, Engineering Manager Bill
Helms, City Attorney William Seligmann, and
Recording Secretary Linda Dennis.
Absent None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
M/S: Dickson, Stanton That the Planning Commission minutes of the
February 28, 1989 meeting be approved with
the following changes: Pg. 2, Para. 2 -
change "offended" to "confused". Page 3,
Para. 10 - delete "...and the City Council
would like to see improved." Page 7, Vote on
Motion - should read "Motion passed 4-3-0).
Pg. 9, delete last Para. - "The Chairman
suggested.." Motion to approved minutes
carried unanimously (7-0-0).
COMMUNICATIONS
Communications received pertained to specific agenda items.
ORAL REQUESTS
Chairman Olszewski asked if any one wished to address the Commission regarding
an item that was not agendized.
Commissioner Stanton asked that Staff agendize the matter of compensation for
advisors to the Site & Architectural Review Committee.
Planning Director Piasecki indicated that Staff is looking at alternatives
fooor advisors and/or compensation, and will keep the Commission apprised.
CONSENT CALENDAR
There were no Consent Calendar items for discussion.
~ ~ ~
-2-
ARCHITECTURAL APPRQVALS
M 88-09 The continued application of Mr. John
Camarena, J. Camarena for approval of a modification to
allow the construction of a mansard roof on
an existing drive-in restaurant located on
property known as 2255 S. Winchester Blvd. in
a C-2-S (General Commercial) Zoning District.
Planning Director Piasecki reviewed the Staff Report of March 14, 1989, noting
that revised plans have not been received on this item; therefore, Staff is
recommending denial without prejudice to remove it from the agenda.
Brief discussion ensued regarding procedural concerns with removing
applications from the agenda. Staff is investigating the possibility of not
agendizing items which are indicated for removal at the request of the
applicant. The Commission indicated the desire to be informed of any suggested
policy change.
M/S: Walker, Dickson - That the Planning Commission deny M 88-09
without prejudice in order that it may be
removed from the agenda. Motion carried
unanimously (7-0-0).
~ ~ ~
PUBLIC HEARINGS
UP 89-03 Public hearing to consider the application of
Loft Catering The Loft Catering for approval of a
Conditional Use Permit to allow an off-sale
beer and wine liquor license in conjunction
with a catering business on property known as
2081 S. Winchester Blvd. in a C-2-S (General
Commercial) Zoning District.
Principal Planner Stafford reviewed the Staff Report of March 14, 1989, noting
that Staff is recommending approval of this use permit in conjunction with a
catering business.
Commissioner Walker asked if this business also served food on the premises.
Mr. Stafford indicated that Staff's understanding is that all food is delivered
off-premises.
Commissioner Dickson asked what criteria was used to determine if there were
too many liquor-related uses in an area; and, if there were any statistics
indicating the relationship to off-sale licenses and use of alcohol in
vehicles. Commissioner Dickson noted that he is bringing these questions up
because he felt that the use permit procedure is not what the Council intended
for liquor-related uses; and, answers to these types of questions were needed •--
for him to make a decision on these types of requests. ~
Mr. Stafford respcm8e~€ that there is no established criteria relating to how
many uses in an area is too many, nor statistics as indicated by Commissioner
Dickson. However, this issue will be a topic of discussion for the Study
Session on March 20, 1989.
-3-
Chairman Olszewski opened the public hearing and invited anyone to speak on
this item. No one wished to speak at this time.
M/S: Perrine, Christ - That the public hearing on UP 89-03 be
closed. Motion carried unanimously (7-0-0).
M/S: Perrine, Walker - That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution
No. 2586 approving UP 89-03, including
findings and conditions as indicated in the
Staff Report of March 14, 1989. Motion
carried with the following roll call vote:
Discussion on motion
Commissioner Dickson opposed the motion, noting that he did not feel
comfortable without the criteria indicated in his earlier discussion.
Vote on motion
AYES: Commissioners: Kasolas, Perrine, Christ, Stanton, Walker,
Olszewski
NOES: Commissioners: Dickson
ABSENT: Commissioners: None.
* ~ ~
UP 89-04 Public hearing to consider the application of
Strong, R. Mr. Robert L. Strong for a Conditional Use
Permit to allow the construction of a
secondary living unit on property known as
1484 Capri Dr. in an R-1-10 (Single Family
Residential, less than 3.5 units per gross
acre) Zoning District.
Principal Planner Stafford reviewed the Staff Report of March 14, 1989, noting
that Staff is recommending approval of this application.
Discussion ensued regarding the proposed building materials; the adjacent house
in relation to the proposed driveway; the requirements of the State Law
pertaining to secondary living units; the number of allowable accessory
structures on a site; the method used for calculating the footprint of the
proposed unit; the provision of a carport for the secondary unit and it's
location in relation to the adjacent property, and the possibility of
incorporating the carport into the existing accessory building/garage; the
seemingly extensive driveway area to access the secondary unit; the percentage
of lot coverage; and, concerns about the secondary unit becoming larger by
enclosing the carport or porch area.
Commissioner Stanton reported that the Site and Architectural Review Committee
is also recommending approval, as per Staff's recommendation; and, that the
applicant has agreed to provide asphalt far the driveway area.
Chairman Olszewski opened the public hearing and invited anyone to speak on
this item.
-4-
Mr. Bruce Reid, 1509 Walnut Drive, expressed concerns regarding the approval of
"variances" on large lots, thereby increasing the density; the proposed
fencing, and if he would be required to participate in the cost; the
possibility of a future lot split; future enlargement of the secondary
structure; possibility of a second story on the unit in the future because of
the provided 8 foot setback; invasion of his privacy because of the possibility
of a subdeck on the carport area in the future; the setback of this structure,
when the average setback in the area is 55 feet; and, bringing the property
into conformance with the existing zoning codes.
City Attorney Seligman noted that this request is technically not a variance;
and, that the State mandates that these types of units be allowed within
certain R-1 zoning districts. The City can only work at minimizing the impact.
Mr. Toborek, 1441 Capri Drive, questioned the proposed porch relative to living
space calculations; the septic system on the site; and the setbacks of the
primary dwelling unit.
Mr. Stafford indicated that the fencing is addressed in the conditions of
approval; the septic system is under the jurisdiction of the West Valley
Sanitation District; any additional work on the site would require a building
permit and/or review by the Planning Commission; the porch area is not included
in the 640 sq.ft. living space calculation; and, the proposed unit exceeds the
required setbacks.
Commissioner Dickson asked that the word "etc." be deleted from Condition 4
addressing utilities.
No one else wished to speak at this time.
M/S: Walker, Stanton -
M/S: Walker, Stanton -
Discussion on motion
That the public hearing on UP 89-04 be
closed. Motion carried unanimously (7-0-0).
That the Planning Commission approve UP
89-04, including the findings and conditions
as indicated in the Staff Report of March 14,
1989.
Commissioner Christ indicated his concern with the amount of pavement on the
side of the property and the location of the carport in relation to the
secondary unit, noting that it would be better if the unit was behind the
garage structure and the pavement ended at that point. Vehicles driving all
the way to the rear of the site would be a nuisance to the neighbors.
Commissioner Dickson opposed the motion, noting his concern with the long,
narrow driveway and the attached carport space. He felt that this proposal was
not harmonious with the neighborhood.
Commissioner Walker supported the motion; however, he expressed his concern
with the fencing situation.
Amendment to motion
Commissioner Walker asked that the motion be amended to require the rear fence
to be a minimum height of 7 feet.
-5-
Discussion ensued regarding engineering factors of fencing heights, the use of
landscaping to ensure privacy, and the need for building permits for fencing
over 6 feet.
Commissioner Stanton indicated that he could not support the proposed amendment
as friendly in that the proposal would result in additional cost to the
bu;_lder.
Discussion of motion
Chairman Olszewski opposed the motion, noting his dissatisfaction with the
driveway going to the accessory building and the provision of a garage on the
accessory building. He felt that this was inappropriate without the creation
of a flag lot, and indicated that a continuance might be appropriate.
Commissioner Perrine concurred with Chairman Olszewski, noting his concern with
the driveway.
Withdrawal of second
Commissioner Stanton withdrew his second from the motion for approval.
Motion dies for lack of a second.
M/S: Perrine, Christ -
M/S: Perrine, Christ -
Discussion on motion
That the public hearing on UP 89-04 be
reopened. Motion carried unanimously
(7-0-0).
That the public hearing on UP 89-04 be
continued to the Planning Commission meeting
of March 28, 1989, to give the applicant an
opportunity to redesign the driveway and
parking for the secondary living unit as per
discussion.
Mr. Jerry Strong, representing the applicant, concurred with the continuance.
Commissioner Perrine stated that he would be comfortable approving the
application subject to the redlined plans coming back to the Planning Director
for approval.
Commissioner Walker asked Mr. Strong about providing additional landscaping and
a higher than normal fence in the rear for privacy screening.
Commissioner Perrine withdrew his motion for a continuance.
Commissioner Christ stated his preference for a continuance, noting that he did
not wish to redesign plans during the meeting.
Motion for continuance dies for lack of a second.
-6-
M/S: Christ, Kasolas - That the public hearing on UP 89-04 be
continued to the Planning Commission meeting
of March 28, 1989.
Discussion on motion
Commissioner Kasolas noted that he was not comfortable with changing the
presented plans during the meeting, especially since the applicant was not
present.
Commissioner Stanton indicated that Staff is aware of the Commission's concern,
as expressed this evening, and the proposed changes could be handled at Staff
level.
Commissioner Kasolas stated that referring issues to Staff does not give the
public an opportunity to respond.
Vote on motion to continue
Motion for continuance carried with the
following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners: Kasolas, Perrine, Christ, Dickson, Olszewski
NOES: Commissioners: Stanton, Walker
ABSENT: Commissioners: None.
* ~ ~
The Commission recessed at 8:45 p.m.; the meeting reconvened at 9:00 a.m.
~ ~
PD 89-03 Public hearing to consider the application
Vindasius, A. of Mr. Al Vindasius for approval of a Planned
Development Permit and approval of plans,
elevations, and development schedule to allow
the construction of 8 townhomes on properties
known as 107, 119, and 129 E. Rincon Avenue
in a PD (Planned Development/Medium Density
Residential, 14-20 units per gross acre)
Zoning District.
Planning Director Piasecki reviewed the Staff Report of March 14, 1989, and
noted a letter (attached hereto) from Leonard and Pamela Ruggieri. The Site
and Architectural Review Committee is asking that two 36" box trees be provided
as replacement trees on the site. Additionally, the applicant has been asked
to provide careful handling of pavement treatment relative to a large,
off-site, pepper tree to the rear of the subject site. Staff has asked the
applicant to look at the driveway aprons; however, this is not an isssue for
denial, and could be addressed with CC&R's. Staff is of the opinion that the
presented plan. is re~asan:able overall and is recommending approval subject to
minimal redlining addressing parking and fencing location.
-7-
Discussion ensued regarding the percentage of on-site landscaping; the type of
mitigation measures to provide for the health of the pepper tree on the
adjacent property; the percentage of building coverage on the lot; the proposed
floor plans relative to number of bedrooms; the configuration of the subject
lots; the zoning in the area; setbacks of the proposed structures; and, parking
requirements relative to recently discussed Council Policy.
Commissioner Stanton reported that the Site and Architectural Review Committee
expressed concerns about the pepper tree on the adjacent lot; is of the opinion
that the project will upgrade the area; and, is recommending approval.
Chairman Olszewski opened the public hearing.
Mr. Ron Dick, Architect, 307 Orchard City Drive, stated that the applicant
would address the needs of the pepper tree under discussion; and, would like to
keep the parking ratio as proposed in order to provide for additional trees in
the driveway area.
Mr. Alan Wheeler, 97 E. Rincon Ave., expressed concern about the fence height
in relation to structure setbacks on his property; privacy issues relative to
windows overlooking his back yard; that his home is set back only 18 inches
from the property line; fire safety of structures and setbacks; light and air
for his home; parking if garages in townhomes are not used; design concerns in
the the area is basically bungalow styles - not Victorian; traffic on E.
Rincon; preservation of historic structures in the neighborhood; and, the
density of the proposed project.
Ms. Pat Alford, 212 E. Rincon Ave., expressed concern with the integrity of the
neighborhood; the design of the project; and parking in the area. Ms. Alford
felt that the project was inappropriate for the Downtown Area and for Rincon
Ave.
Chairman Olszewski asked what attributes the proposed development has to show
that it is better than a single family development.
Mr. Piasecki responded that the applicant has been sensitive to the
neighborhood with the parking situation, roof elements, design elements, and
lower density.
Commissioner Kasolas stated that the City Council has not, to his knowledge,
addressed changing the General Plan in this area. His understanding is that
there is a need for housing in the Downtown Area in order to support
redevelopment projects and mass transportion projects. How can the Commission
say no, given the zoning for the area and the process it went through.
Chairman Olszewski asked if a finding could be made that an application fits
within the designated density but still may not be compatible with the
allowable density.
Mr. Piasecki noted that the Commission should look at the site plan related
issues. The consideration should be reasonable when the applicant is being
reasonable. Findings must be based on the City's policy for the area.
Mrs. Pam Ruggieri, 106 E. Rincon Ave., expressed cancern with the building's
profile/height; and,. the density and the size of the units.
-8-
Commissioner Christ related. that there has been discussion by past study __
committeess regarding possible historical overlays in this area to preserve the
general feeling of the area. He hoped that these concerns have not been
forgotten, in that the area has many unique characteristics that should be
preserved.
Ms. Dottie DeBachlan, 129 E. Rincon Ave., reported that the existing structures
on the site are in a seriously deteriorated condition; and, that the proposed
development is sensitive to the neighborhood by design and would be an
improvement to the area.
Commissioner Walker indicated concern with the impact of area development on
Alice Avenue, with a "canyon-like" effect resulting from 2 & 3 story
buildings. He suggested that the street's profile be kept lower, and that the
proposed development be more sensitive to the smaller homes across the street.
Commissioner Dickson noted that the Commission is not a policy-making body;
that the Council has looked at this area very carefully and they have not given
the Commission direction to lower densities; and, developers have a right to
present plans with the opportunity of getting a fair hearing.
Commissioner Christ stated that in an area with unique character, the
Commission should be careful to see that the proposed project pays particular
attention and doesn't create a domino affect which has the impact of collapsing
neighborhoods.
Mr. Leonard Ruggieri, 106 E. Rincon Ave., asked how the proposal could be
sensitive to the neighborhood when there are no other townhomes in the
neighborhood, and no other structures of this height.
Commissioner Perrine pointed out that the applicant is asking for nothing more
than the allowable density; that the design does have architectural features to
soften it's impact; that this project is less than the 35 foot height limit
allowable in the R-1 Zoning District; and, that the only thing that might be
done to lessen the impact further would be readdressing some of the windows on
the east elevation.
Commissioner Walker expressed concern with the closeness of Mr. Wheeler's
structures and asked if Mr. Wheeler might purchase some additional footage for
more access. He also indicated he would like to see the development's height
lowered.
Mr. Dick pointed out that the proposal has a greater setback than required on
the west side; and, that when Mr. Wheeler purchased his home, the setback was
only 18 inches - the problem has always been there and is not the fault of the
applicant.
Commissioner Perrine noted that the situation appeared to be one of a legal
nonconforming use trying to impose a problem on the Commission. He asked if
the setbacks on Mr. Wheeler's property impose any restrictions on setbacks for
fencing on the subject development.
-9-
City Attorney Seligmann responded that the Commission could consider this
project as it addresses surrounding properties; that requiring the applicant to
give property to Mr. Wheeler to resolve his setback problems would create
problems; and, Mr. Wheeler's setbacks do not impose different setbacks on the
proposed development.
Mr. John Peters, 118 S. Fourth St., questioned the concerns for the pepper tree
on the adjacent property, noting that trees on the subject property had been
removed a few months ago at the onset of development plans.
M/S: Stanton, Kasolas - That the public hearing on PD 89-03 be
closed. Motion carried with the following
roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners: Kasolas, Perrine, Walker, Dickson
NOES: Commissioners: Christ, Stanton, Olszewski
ABSENT: Commissioners: None
Commissioner Christ opposed the motion to close the public hearing because he
felt the application should be continued for further review and fot review of
plans for the street.
M/S: Stanton, Perrine - That the Planning Commission recommend that
the City Council accept the Negative
Declaration which has been prepared for this
project; and, that the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No. 2587, incorporating
findings as indicated in the Staff Report of
March 14, 1989, recommending that the City
Council approve PD 89-03 subject to redlining
of presented plans and the conditions of
approval as indicated in the Staff Report.
Discussion of motion
Commissioner Walker opposed the motion, noting that this application appears to
be a more sensitive issue than originally anticipated.
Commissioner Dickson supported the motion, noting that it is proposed for the
low end of the density range, and the plans show quality of design and try to
match the neighborhood.
Commissioner Christ opposed the motion, noting that the architectural design is
satisfactory; a higher density could be appropriate in this area; some of the
windows intrude onto the neighborhood rather than onto the development; and he
felt that the project was not in the best interest of the community.
Commissioner Kasolas supported the motion, noting that the policy for this area
is up to 20 units per gross acre; that the applicant has addressed the rules of
the system; and, if the people feel there is a great need to change the
policies for this area, they should proceed accordingly.
-10-
Commissioner Perrine supported the motion, noting that the development design
and density is sensitive to the neighborhood. -
Chairman Olszewski opposed the motion. He did not see a problem with the
zoning in the area; but was concerned with the compatibility of the design with
the neighborhood, specifically the height of the structures. Chairman
Olszewski suggested modifying the plans to provide single story street frontage
units or a stepped design. Additionally, provision of a permeable membrane was
suggested to provide for the health of the pepper tree on the adjacent lot.
Roll Call Vote on motion
AYES: Commissioners: Kasolas, Perrine, Stanton, Dickson
NOES: Commissioners: Christ, Walker, Olszewski
ABSENT: Commissioners: None.
MISCELLANEOUS
~ * ~
TS 89-01 Tentative Subdivision Map - Lands of NADCON -
Saray, S. 96 Dot Ave. - APN 305-30-003.
Principal Planner Phil Stafford reviewed the Staff Report of March 14, 1989,
noting that Staff is recommending approval of this map.
M/S: Perrine, Christ - That the Planning Commission find the
proposed map to be in accord with the City's
General Plan; and, that the Planning
Commission recommend that the City Council
approve TS 89-01, subject to attached
conditions. Motion carried 5-0-1-1, with
Commissioner Stanton being absent for the
vote, and Commissioner Kasolas abstaining due
to absence from the discussion of the
original Planned Development Permit on this
map.
~ ~
SA 89-04 Continued sign application - Orchard City
Guthrdige, D. Plaza Associates - 307 Orchard City Drive -
PD (Planned Development/Commercial) Zoning
District.
Planning Director Steve Piasecki reviewed the Staff Report of March 14, 1989,
noting that Staff is also suggesting that the signing materials and
illumination be modified for Zapp's location.
Discussion ensued regarding the height of the proposed sign; the building
materials and illumination technique; and, bringing the sign for Zapp's into
conformance with the ordinances.
(Commissioner Walker left the Chambers at 10:45 p.m.)
-11-
Mr. Dave Guthridge,
Staff's proposal to
ordinance.
applicant, agreed to the conditions of approval and the
bring signage for Zapp's into conformance with the
M/S: Christ, Stanton -
Discussion on motion
That the Planning Commission approve the
presented Sign A and Sign B; that the size of
Sign C be approved with the actual design and
materials coming back to the Site &
Architectural Review Committee and Staff for
final approval to be consistent with the
Zoning Ordinance.
Chairman Olszewski opposed the motion because of the amount of signage provided
for Zapp's.
Roll Call Vote on motion
AYES: Commissioners: Perrine, Christ, Stanton, Dickson
NOES: Commissioners: Olszewski
ABSENT: Commissioners: Walker
ABSTAIN: Commissioners: Kasolas (due to possible conflict of interest).
~ ~ ~
SA 89-05
Clark, T.
Continued sign application - Clark Pest
Control - 964 Camden Ave. - M-1-S (Light
Industrial) Zoning District.
Principal Planner Phil Stafford reviewed the Staff Report of March 14, 1989,
noting that Staff is recommending denial based on the opinion that a pest
control business is not dependent on freeway/expressway visibility.
Commissioner Stanton reported that the Site & Architectural Review Committee is
of the opinion that there are alternatives to address this situation;
therefore, denial is recommended.
Mr. Terry Clark, applicant, provided the Commission with photographs showing
signing visible from Camden and from the expressway.
Discussion ensued regarding the number of signs on the subject building; the
orientation and visibility of signage; the location of this business relative
to visibility from the expressway; the unusual shape of the building; other
signage in the community which is visible from freeways/expressways relative to
precedent setting; and, the size of the proposed sign relative to the size of
the business.
(Commissioner Walker re-entered the Chambers at 11:05 p.m.)
Commissioner Stanton noted that there is an existing freestanding sign that
will accomplish the requested identification and meet the ordinance
requriements. Additionally, pest control services are not dependent upon
vehicular tzaffic.
-12-
Commissioner Kasolas indicated that there are several signs throughout the
community which are really freeway-oriented (ie. Best Products, Campbell Inn,
Pruneyard Inn); however, he felt that the issue of the sign's size was
legitimate. Additionally, the ordinance does not specifically prohibit these
types of signs - only states that there is a process which must be addressed.
Commissioner Perrine did not believe that a pest control business was dependent
upon freeway orientation.
Chairman Olszewski agreed that the size of the signage was the real issue.
M/S: Christ, Kasolas - That the Planning Commission adopt the
finding that due to the location and design
of the buildings, the proposed 40 sq.ft. sign
is the only location for adequate signage
addressing Camden Avenue, which incidentally
is viewable from the San Tomas Expressway;
and that the Planning Commission approve the
following signs: (1) A wall mounted sign
(40 sq.ft.) oriented to San Tomas Expressway;
and (2) A suspended plywood sign (4 sq.ft.)
oriented to Camden Avenue, which is to
include the street address numbers.
Discussion on motion
Commissioner Perrine opposed the motion, noting that the same sign could be on
the wall facing Camden Avenue and not conflict with the ordinance.
Commissioner Walker stated that he would be abstaining from the vote due to his
absence from a portion of the discussion on this item.
Vote on motion
AYES: Commissioners: Kasolas, Christ, Dickson, Olszewski
NOES: Commissioners: Perrine, Stanton
ABSENT: Commissioners: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioners: Walker (due to absence from discussion on item).
~ ~ ~
Staff Report Staff Report regarding Appointment of
Planning Commission Subcommittee to review
Site and Architectural Review Procedures.
Commissioners Christ and Walker were appointed to this Subcommittee, with
Commissioner Christ as Chair.
~ ~ ~
REPORT OF THE PLANNING DIRECTOR
The Report of the Planning Director was noted and filed.
~ * ~
-13-
SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS
There were no Subcommittee Reports at this time.
OTHER ITEMS BROUGHT UP BY COMMISSIONERS
Commissioner Dickson asked for the following issues to be agendized for a
future meeting: (1) Criteria used by Public Works Department for the
installation of Stop signs; and, the possibility of opening up Campbell Avenue
east of Bascom Avenue. (2) The need to look at an ordinance to address
unusual nuisances (ie. Tower Records) relative to increased parking
needs/requirements.
Chairman Olszewski asked Staff to prepare a commendation for Mr. Craig
Mineweaser who has resigned his volunteer position with the City as
Architectural Advisor.
* ~
anmlmnn•rFrrr
There being no further business, the meeting
was adjourned at 11:25 p.m.
APPROVED: Bruce Olszewski
Chairman
ATTEST: Steve Piasecki
Secretary
RECORDED: Linda Dennis
Recording Secretary