PC Min 09/08/1987PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF CAMPBELL, CALIFORNIA
7:30 PM MINUTES SEPTEMBER 8, 1987
The Planning Commission of the City of Campbell convened this day in regular
session at the regular meeting place, the Council Chambers of City Hall, 70 N.
First St., Campbell, California.
ROLL CALL
Present Commissioners: Stanton, Olszewski, Christ,
Walker, Dickson, Perrine; Planning
Director A. A. Kee, Principal Planner Phil
Stafford, Engineering Manager Bill Helms,
City Attorney Bill Seligmann, Recording
Secretary Linda Dennis.
Absent Kasolas.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
M/S: Stanton, Christ - That the minutes of the Planning Commission
meeting of August 25, 1987, be approved as
submitted. Motion carried unanimously
(6-0-1).
COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Kee noted that communications received pertained to specific items on the
agenda and would be discussed at that time.
ORAL REQUESTS
Chairman Perrine asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to
address the Commission on an issu e that was not on the agenda. There being no
one, the Chairman proceeded with the set agenda.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
ZC 87-06 Public hearing to consider the applica-
Shell Oil Company tion of Shell Oil Company for a Zone
Williams, J. Change from C-1-S (Neighborhood Commercial)
to C-2-S (General Commercial) on property
known as 1530 W. Campbell Ave.
Planning Director Kee reviewed the Staff Report of September 8, 1987, noting
that Staff is recommending a continuance of this item to October 13, 1987.
Chairman Perrine opened the public hearing and invited anyone in the audience
to speak for or against this item.
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There was brief discussion regarding whether or not there is a Council policy
on having similar businesses in close proximity, and regarding the zoning
history of the subject site.
M/S: Christ, Olszewski - That .the public hearing on ZC 87-06 be
continued to the Planning Commission meeting
of October 13, 1987. Motion carried
unanimously (6-0-1).
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ZC 87-OS Continued public hearing to consider the
PD 87-04 application of Mr. Rassoul Aleshi for a
Aleshi, R, zone change from R-M-S (Multiple Family
Residential) to PD (Planned Development) and
approval of a Planned Development permit,
plans, elevations, and development schedule
to allow the construction of two townhomes on
property known as 548 W. Hacienda Ave.
Planning Director Kee reviewed the Staff Report of September 8, 1987, noting
that revised plans have not been received; therefore, Staff is recommending a
continuance to October 13, 1987.
Chairman Perrine opened the public hearing and invited anyone in the audience
to speak for or against this item.
M/S: Olszewski, Christ - That the public hearing on ZG 87-05/
PD 87-04 be continued to the Planning
Commission meeting of October 13, 1987.
Motion carried unanimously (6-0-1).
Request Continued request of Richard and Dorothy
Aubrey, R. Aubrey for a deviation to the Satellite Dish
Antenna Ordinance to allow a dish antenna
17'8' in height and partially visible from
the street on property known as 1459 E.
Campbell Ave. in an R-1-6 (Single Family
Residential - 6,000 sq.ft. minimum lot size)
Zoning District.
Planning Director Kee reviewed the Staff Report of September 8, 1987.
Correspondence from the applicants, Mr. and Mrs. Aubrey, was noted (attached
hereto).
The Commission discussed the FCC regulations and how they pre-empt the local
regulations; antenna regulations in the County in that the subject property
borders the County; and, alternative placements for the subject antenna as they
relate to creating a hardship.
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City Attorney Seligmann indicated that the hardship would be, in his opinion,
self-imposed in that the applicant placed the antenna prior to seeking
approval; however, he would caution the Commission that there has been no court
decision to support this opinion. Mr. Seligmann continued that he was of the
opinion that the applicant could be required to move the antenna on the basis
of costs.
Mrs. Dorothy Aubrey reviewed her letter to the Commission (attached hereto) and
presented pictures of the site. Mrs. Aubrey stated that, in her opinion,
moving the antenna would interfer with it's reception, and could make it more
visible in the neighborhood. Additionally, the applicant answered questions
from the Commission regarding the height of surrounding vegetation, alternative
locations for the antenna, and the size of the dish antenna.
Mr. Mark Bara, 14 N. Peter Dr., presented pictures of the view from his home,
and spoke against the application.. Mr. Bara noted that the item had been
continued in order that the applicant might work out something with the
neighbors, however, no attempt was made to do this; and, that the antenna has
devalued his property and he has no recourse to recover costs. Mr. Bara
suggested that an expert be consulted to determine the least conspicuous
placement for the antenna.
Mr. Gordon Armstrong, 13 N. Peter Dr., spoke against the application, noting
that it brings down the neighborhood. Mr. Armstrong felt that there should be
a-place to mount the antenna where it will not be visible to anyone. Regarding
the applicant~sizefof theptreescyhowever,ehe/wouldAlmkerto seedthetproposaluld
depend on the
before making a decision.
Mr. Patrick Bouchard, 1485 E. Campbell Ave., spoke against the antenna, stating
that it is very unsightly, easily seen from the front and side, completely
visible from his rear yard, and closer to the fence than the code allows. Mr.
Bouchard presented pictures taken from his property; stated that he would still
object to having to look at the antenna even if it were placed in the presented
alternative location; and, that he felt victimized by the whole issue.
Regarding putting trees between the houses, Mr. Bouchard did not think that
this was an acceptable alternative and that it would take years to accomplish a
screening effect.
Mr. Richard Aubrey, applicant, stated that it is impossible to put the antenna
low because reception will be interferred with by the Bouchard's house, and
power lines. Mr. Aubrey continued that the City code states that the antenna
cannot be visible from the street, it says nothing about being visible to the
neighbors. After discussing possible alternative sites with the Commission,
Mr. Aubrey felt it might be best to have a professional deal with the antenna
placement. Mr. Aubrey concluded that he is either going to get the variance,
or bring the antenna into compliance with the code; and, even if it is mounted
on the ground, it will still be seen over the fence.
Commissioner Christ expressed his concern with the issue in the community at
large, as well as with the neighbors having to look at the intrusion.
Commissioner Christ felt that there was an opportunity to relocate the antenna
and that any hardship presented would be self-imposed.
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Commissioner Dickson expressed his concern about the lack of expert testimony;
conflicting information relating to reception, heights, exposures, and power
lines; and, that a moving or rotating antenna is not really addressed in the
ordinances. Commissioner Dickson felt that the Commission should stand behind
the ordinance, or there will be a constant barage of applications for variances
with people saying they were unaware of the ordinance when they installed their
dish antenna. Additionally, all the recommendations for screening the antennas
with landscaping will present a sunlight obstruction problem eventually.
Commissioner Dickson continued that there should be a limit to how much the
City has to do to meet the FCC regulations, and there should be a difference
between the residential and commercial antenna uses.
Commissioner Walker felt that the ordinances were adopted to regulate what
might be considered as a modern day blight. He spoke in favor of enforcing the
codes for the sake of the neighborhood and for trying to get advice from a
neutral expert.
Commissioner Olszewski agreed with Commissioner Dickson regarding the planting
of landscaping screens; noted that the neighbors were being positive in
considering some type of landscaping screening, however, the financial burden
should not be transferred to the neighbors for the plant materials and labor.
Commissioner Olszewski noted that any expert opinion which could be obtained
would be welcome.
_ M/S: Olszewski, Walker - That this matter be continued to the Planning
Commission meeting of October 13, 1987.
Motion carried unanimously (6-0-1).
The Commission requested Staff to try to obtain a professional in this field to
give additional information and advice on alternative locations for this
antenna; and, to obtain information from the County on their sattelite dish
antenna regulations, in that the subject site is adjacent to an area within the
County's jurisdiction.
M 83-14A Request of Our Mother of Perpetual Help
Post, G. Church for an extension of time for the use
of two temporary structures on property known
as 110 W. Latimer Ave. in an R-3-S (Multiple
Family Residential) Zoning District.
Planning Director Kee reviewed the Staff Report of September 8, 1987, noting
that Staff is recommending approval of a 12-month extension.
Commissioner Dickson felt that it should be made very clear that these units
are not trailers used for storage, but rather classroom units. With this in
mind, Commissioner Dickson stated that he had no problem with approving an
extension.
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Commissioner Olszewski expressed his concern with the aesthetics and safety of
the trailers, noting that the area beneath the trailers is easily accessible
and could be considered an attractive nuisance to children. Commissioner
Olszewski felt that, considering the length of times the units have been at
this location, they should skirted as a safety precaution.
Mr. Kee reported that the application has been referred to the Fire Department,
and must meet any requirements they deem appropriate.
Commissioner Christ stated that he did not have a problem with another
extension at this time; however, four years is somewhat long to be considered
as a "temporary' use; and, he would be inclined to look less favorable on the
situation should it continue much longer.
Commissioner Stanton expressed a concern with the safety of the trailers, in
that they are on jacks, rather than piers.
Mr. Harmon Johnson, Business Manager, noted that the church has been actively
looking for a new location, but without success. They have not made any
improvements to the trailers because they do consider them temporary; however,
if the Commission deems it necessary, the church will take action to provide
some type of concrete pier for the units.
Commissioner Dickson noted that the trailers have been in use for three years,
kith no problems.
M/S: Dickson, Walker - That the Planning Commission adopt the
following findings and grant a 12-month
extension to use two temporary structures at
110 W. Latimer Ave.
Findings:
1. The Church has demonstrated that they are
attempting to resolve the problem by locating
a larger facility.
2. No complaints have been received
regarding the use of the trailers.
3. Parking is adequate with the shopping
center across the street.
4. The trailers are not visible from the
street.
Discussion on motion
Commissioner Olszewski stated that he would be voting against the motion, in
that he perceived a safety problem with the lack of skirting around the
trailers.
Commissioner Stanton stated that he would be voting against the motion pier
blocks and skirting were required as part of the motion.
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Commissioner Dickson stated that the Commission is here to receive expert
testimony and act on that information. Previous considerations by the Fire and -
Building Departments have not shown any concerns with this use.
Commissioner Christ spoke in favor of the motion, noting that they applicant
might consider the suggested improvements if the trailers are still is use next
year and another extension is requested.
Roll call vote on motion:
AYES: Commissioners: Christ, Walker, Dickson, Perrine
NOES: Commissioners: Stanton, Olszewski
ABSENT: Commissioners: Kasolas.
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The Commissioner recessed at 9:15 p.m.; the meeting reconvened at 9:30 p.m.
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R 87-05 Reinstatement of application of Mr.
S 86-06 William Chalmers for a reinstatement of
Chalmers, W. approved plans and approval of a phasing plan
to construct 4 industrial buildings on
. property known as 700 McGlincey Ln. in a
M-1-S (Light Industrial) Zoning District.
Planning Director Kee reviewed the Staff Report of September 8, 1987.
Commissioner Christ reported that this application was considered by the Site
and Architectural Review Committee. The Committee concurs with the additonal
conditions and findings, and is recommending approval.
There was discussion regarding the fencing around the residential site to the
north; and, regarding the removal of existing structures during Phase I.
M/S: Walker, Christ - That the Planning Commission adopt the
following findings, and reinstate the project
subject to the attached phasing schedule,
previously adopted Conditions of Approval,
and the additional Conditions of Approval
which are indicated in the Staff Report of
September 8, 1987.
Findings:
1. There have been no changes in the General
Plan or the zoning for the area since the
project was approved on August 12, 1986.
2. There have been no changes in the overall
project.
3. Adequate parking and circulation is
provided in each phase of the project.
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Discussion on motion
Commissioner Dickson stated that he would be opposing the motion in that there
is not adequate landscaping .buffer between this project and the residential
property to the immediate north.
Vote on motion
SA 87-52
Brown, L.
Motion carried with a vote of 5-1-1, with
Commission Dickson voting 'no•, and
Commissioner Kasolas being absent.
Signing request - 210 E. Hacienda Ave. -
Zilog, Inc.
Planning Director Kee reviewed the Staff Report of September 8, 1987.
Commissioner Christ reported that this application was considered by the Site
and Architectural Review Committee. The Committee is recommending approval,
subject to the reduction of the existing sign (A3).
Mr. Larry Brown, applicant, indicated that the sign is needed because the trees
make signing on the building ineffectual.
M/S: Dickson, Stanton - That the Planning Commission adopt the
following findings and approve the
applicant's signing request subject to the
following modifications:
(1) Providing Hacienda Business Center and
address information on the base of the sign,
and (2) Reducing the size of the sign
previously approved at the Hacienda Ave.
entrance to the project from 6' X 8' to 4.5'
X 6' (Sign A3.); and subject to the
condition that the applicant secure any
necessary permits from the Building
Department.
Findings:
1. The proposed sign is consistent with the
scale of the project, in terms of the number
of buildings involved and the extensive
street frontage on Dell and Hacienda Aves.
2. The proposed sign is well designed and
blends in with the architecture of the
buildings.
3. Due to the size of the project, the
proposed sign is in the best interest of the
public and serve the public welfare.
Motion carried unanimously (6-0-1).
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SA 67-55 Sign application of Mr. Hal Nelson for a
Nelson, H. wall sign at the rear of the building at
410-450 Marathon Dr. in a PD (Planned
Development/Commercial) Zoning District.
Planning Director Kee reviewed the Staff Report of September 8, 1987.
Commissioner Christ reported that this application was considered by the Site
and Architectural Review Committee. The Committee concurs with Staff and the
applicant; however, it is not recommending approval, but rather a continuance
in order that the applicant might be able to design something more substantial
than a painted sign.
Mr. Hal Nelson, applicant, stated that the proposed sign is very protected.; it
should not have weathering problems; it should withstand vandalism better than
plastic; is scheduled for repainting every three years; and is mainly to serve
as a directory. Mr. Nelson indicated that he would rather put up a plastic
sign than have the matter continued.
Discussion ensued regarding the signing materials (plywood) versus plastic;
and, appearance and colors.
Commissioner Dickson noted that the Commission is going too far in designing
the applicant's sign. The applicant has expended funds to upgrade the building
end it is doubtful he would harm it's appearance with a poor quality sign.
M/S: Walker, Stanton - That the Planning Commission adopt the
following finding and approve this
application.
Finding:
1. The commercial building on Marathon Dr. is
unusually difficult to locate in comparison
to similar uses because it is blocked from
view from Hamilton Ave. due to the
construction of a new retail building.
Discussion on motion
Commissioner Olszewski opposed the motion, indicating that he did not have
adequate information.
Commissioner Christ opposed the motion, in that he felt the signing materials
should be changed.
Commissioner Walker supported the motion, noting that the applicant has worked
closely with Staff and put a great deal of thought into the sign design.
Roll call vote on motion:
AYES: Commissioners: Stanton, Walker, Dickson, Perrine
NOES: Commissioners: Olszewski, Christ
ABSENT: Commissioners: Kasolas.
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Staff Report Staff Report regarding policies on
landscaping and retention of existing
vegetation.
Principal Planner Stafford reviewed the Staff Report of September S, 1987.
Commissioner Dickson felt it was important that the Commission understand that
Staff goes through a very thorough review of the landscaping on a site before
the issue gets to the Commission.
Commissioner Olszewski felt that perhaps this issue was a topic for discussion
at a study session. He continued that the City needs to have foresight in
taking care of these potential problems; perhaps a "grading permit" would be
the answer. Commissioner Olszewski suggested that Staff might start
preliminary investigations into the parameters of grading permits as a means of
controlling the elimination of certain beneficial vegetation.
Commissioner Christ felt that the Commission may need to look at the broader
picture in the form of a "tree ordinance".
M/S: Dickson, Stanton - That this Staff Report be noted and filed,
and that this issue be scheduled for
discussion at a future study session.
OTHER ITEMS BROUGHT UP BY COMMISSIONER
Chairman Perrine requested Staff to agendize the issue of a study session for
the meeting of September 22, 1987; and to prepare a list of topics for
discussion at such a session.
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~T).T(1TIRNMF.NT
There being no further business, the meeting
was adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
APPROVED: Jay Perrine
Chairman
ATTEST: Arthur A. Kee
Secretary
RECORDED: Linda A. Dennis
Recording secretary
Mr. Arthur A. k:ee 9-1^c-87
F'1 anni ng Director
City of Campbel 1
7C> North First St.
Campbell, Ca. 95008
Dear Mr. k,ee:
The meeting of 8-11-@7 was rather shocF;ing and quite frustrating
to us. Not because of the Agenda or the Commission, but because
of our two neighbors who spoE::e during the publ i c heari n.g.
Neither of these neighbors had spoE;en to us about the dish before
yesterday. Iri fact Mr. Armstrong, 1~~ Peter Dr., came to our
house at 7:10 pm. introduced himself and tried to bribe us
regarding another matter using your meeting as a weapon. Mr.
Armstrong had never even said hi to us before yesterday. His
opening comments were, "Some of your neighbors and I would like
to maE;e a deal with you." Then later he stated "_I dvn't care
about the satellite dish, it doesn't bother me." He said if we
didn't sign an agreement at that time he would come to the
meeting and argue against the dish.
At the meeting our item was scheduled rather Iate. It was #9 on
the agenda.. A break was called about 9 pm. At the end of the
br~eaF; before the meeting resumed Mr. MarE; Bara, 14 Peter Dr. ,
asked us to step into the lobby and speak: with him and Mr.
Armstrong. At this time they again asE;ed us to sign-an agreement
regarding another matter and they would leave. We again said we
could not do this. We were discussing the situation when we were
called bacE:: into the room because the commissioners had called ~
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our item out of sequence in the agenda. It should be pointed out j
that these two gentlemen had never ever brought-this problem to
our attention although it has e:<isted for over two years.
Because of the aforementioned conversation we did not here -the
opening comments from the commission, the staff report or Mr.
Bouchard. Mr. Armstrong lives diagonally across F'eter Dr. A
view from his house shows most of the antenna blocked by our own
house and trees. He stated in public that he could see the entire
antenna from his house. Mr. tiara's house is only a few feet frorr+
the fence with the kitchen area directly behind our ta-11 hedge.
They can only see the top of the antenna witch is bf -mesh
contraction and can be seen thru. Mr. Bara also said -in public
that he had the same view from his kitchen window that I had in a
picture that was taE::en ten feet behind the antenna in our patio.
The attached photos will give you a true picture of the e>;posure
of the antenna.
These pictures clearly show that Mr. Armstrong and Mr. '8ara made
false statement=_~ to the commission. As we told both-men in the
lobby on B-11-87 if they had brought the other matter to~'our~
attention we would have taken care of it as soon 'as possible but
we would not sign a bribery statement.
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We have always been straight forward and discussed items of
concern with our neighbors and quic4;ly solved any problems.
These people are newcomers to the neighborhood and their devious
tactics are not the customary way we solve problems. Noai that
they have brought up their concern about the other item we are
ta~::ing steps to solve it.
The above mentioned type of behavior should not prevent us from
receiving satellite T.V. reception.
The attached site and elevation drawings and photos indicate the
only other location where a dish antenna could be located. This
would involve moving the antenna about ten feet west and twelve
feet north. This in turn would involve breaE::ing out that portion
of our cement patio, then moving the pole from its present
location. It is anchored in two by two feet of cement four feet
deep. Moving to this new location would be very e.:pensive. This
location would be more visible from some parts of Peter Dr. but
would not be visible from Campbel Ave. It would be as visible if
not more visible far Mr. Pouchard at 148 Campbel ave.
It is impossible to receive satellite signals from a ground
level instalation. The problems with the area are as follows:
1. Hear of bedrooms area is ?1 feet wide and the signal would be
bi oc~:ed by our house and the PG°~E 1 i nes.
~. Rear grass area , signal b 1 ocL::ed by F'GQ<E 1 i nes, trees and the
neigbors two story house.
3. Cement patio area, signal blocE::ed by our house, trees and the
neigbors two story house.
The current position was the most inconspicuos place we could
find on our property.
We are not opposed to planting a row of cypress trees along our
northwestern fence line as this would in time hide the antenna
from most of F'eter Drive. However. upon inspection most of F'eter
Drive is already blocked from view because of e::isting growth.
We are sorry that the Bouchard's have to see the antenna. As
already has been stated we have placed the antenna in the most
inconspicuos place possible. Lut the code says we have to try to
hide it from the street not from our neigbors.
Therfore we would asF:: the commission to approve the deviations
requested.
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F.i char n~rothy Aub ey
' cc/ Planning Commission Members
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PHASING SCHEDULE
Phase I
Building permits to be obtained by September 8, 1988 and Phase I to be
completed by September 8, 1989.
Phase II
Building permits to be obtained by September 8, 1989 and Phase II to be
completed by Septembec 8, 1990.
Failure to obtain building permits by the above referenced dates will
render the application void. Phase I permits must be obtained prior to
Phase II permits. Phase I must be completed prior to occupancy of Phase
II, or both phases to be developed concurrently.
ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL: R 87-05 & S 66-06
SITE ADDRESS: 700 McGLINCEY LN.
APPLICANT: CHALMERS, W.
P.C. MTG.: 9-8-87
1. All Conditions of Approval to be satisfied in Phase I and all on-site
and off-site improvements to be completed in Phase I with the
following exceptions to be completed in Phase II:
A. Construction .of buildings ~1 and #4 as indicated on plans dated
August 27, 1987.
B. Small landscape area to the east and west of building #1 as
indicated on plans dated August 27, 1987. All other landscape
areas to be installed in Phase I.
C. Parking and driveways for building ~1 and #4 as indicated on
plans dated August 27, 1987.
2. All areas not covered by buildings, paved driveways and parking, and
landscaping in Phase I shall be oiled and screened and made available
for additional auto parking. Oiled and screened areas shall not be
used for outside storage of materials, supplies, heavy equipment and
trucks or similar vehicles.
~3. All previously existing buildings and structures on the site to be
fr removed prior to final inspection and occupancy of any portion of
Phase I construction.
4. Plans approved August 12, 1986 by the Planning Commission, including
all redlining, shall remain in effect except for phasing detail- dated
August 27, 1987.
RECOMMENDED FINDINGS: R 87-OS 5 S 66-06
SITE ADDRESS: 700 McGLINCEY LN.
APPLICANT: CHALMERS, W.
P.C. MTG.: 9-8-87
Recommended findings for Reinstatement and Approval of Phasing
1. There have been no changes in the General Plan or the zoning for the
area since the project was approved on August 12, 1986.
2. There have been no changes in the overall project.
3. Adequate parking and circulation is provided in each phase of the
project.