PC Min - 10/13/2009CITY OF CAMPBELL PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
7:30 P.M.
OCTOBER 13, 2009
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
TUESDAY
The Planning Commission meeting of October 13, 2009, was called to order at 7:30
p.m., in the Council Chambers, 70 North First Street, Campbell, California by Vice
Chair Gibbons and the following proceedings were had, to wit:
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present:
Commissioners Absent
Staff Present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Vice Chair:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Chair:
Community Development
Director:
Planning Manager:
Senior Planner:
Associate Planner:
Assistant Planner:
City Attorney:
Elizabeth Gibbons
Theresa Alster
Jeffrey Cristina
Philip C. Reynolds, Jr.
Michael Rocha
Bob Roseberry
Mark Ebner
Kirk Heinrichs
Paul Kermoyan
Tim J. Haley
Steve Prosser
Daniel Fama
William Seligmann
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Rocha, seconded by
Commissioner Roseberry, the Planning Commission minutes of
the meeting of September 22, 2009, were approved as submitted.
(6-0-1; Chair Ebner was absent)
COMMUNICATIONS
1. Two letters regarding Agenda Item No. 1.
2. Revised conditions for Agenda Item No. 2
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AGENDA MODIFICATIONS OR POSTPONEMENTS
There were no agenda modifications or postponements.
ORAL REQUESTS
There were no oral requests.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
Vice Chair Gibbons read Agenda Item No. 1 into the record as follows:
1. PLN2009-98 Public Hearing to consider the Appeal of an Administrative
Shearer, S. Decision (PLN2009-98) made by the Community
Development Director to deny a Tree Removal Permit
request to remove three sweetgum (Liquidambar stryaciflua)
trees within the Pruneyard Vista Homeowner's Association
property near 913 & 915 Apricot Avenue in an R-3-S
(Multiple Family Residential) Zoning District. Staff is
recommending that this project be deemed Categorically
Exempt under CEQA. Planning Commission action final.
Project Planner: Tim J. Haley, Senior Planner
Mr. Tim J. Haley, Senior Planner, presented the staff report as follows:
• Advised that the appellant is appealing the decision of the Community
Development Director to deny a Tree Removal Permit to remove three Liquidambar
trees on the north side of Apricot Avenue.
• Reported that on July 22, 2009, a request was received from the HOA of a condo
development on property originally developed 20 years ago for the removal of three
Liquidambar trees that were part of the original landscape plan.
• Advised that the Director denied this Tree Removal Permit request based on the
Tree Preservation Ordinance that requires the finding(s) that a tree is either:
diseased or in danger of falling; has the potential to damage the main or existing
structure on the site; deprives the property owner of economic enjoyment and/or
creates a financial hardship of the property.
• Stated that based on the Arborist's report submitted with the Tree Removal Permit
application, the Director determined that those findings could not be made and
consequently denied the application. The appellant, who represents the HOA,
appealed that decision.
• Said that the removal request involves removing three Liquidambar trees. It was
reported that these trees have caused damage to some of the sidewalk areas and
curbing and the report indicates that the HOA has had to repair a sewer line in
conjunction with Trees 2 and 3. There are plans to repair a wall and foundation
elements of a garage in an adjacent building located near Tree 1.
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• Informed that the Planning Commission has received correspondence from
residents in close proximity to these trees. They are asking the Planning
Commission to uphold the Director's decision in regards to retaining these trees.
These residents don't feel that the damage associated with the buildings is
attributed to these trees. They're asking that the trees be retained as a part of the
development.
• Added that the HOA is trying to provide a preventative measure in terms of
protecting the main buildings as well as the utilities within the development and feel
that it is appropriate to remove the trees and replace them with three 24-inch box
trees.
Vice Chair Gibbons opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 1.
Ms. Alison Dunford, Resident on Apricot Avenue:
• Said that she is here to ask the Planning Commission to uphold the denial of this
Tree Removal Permit.
• Said that she is in a unique position as she lives in the unit right next to Tree 1 and
her garage is right next to Trees 2 and 3.
• Reported that the HOA never made any claims about sewer backups and damage
until after the original Tree Removal Permit was denied. Now they are saying it's
causing this extra damage. She said that she would say that it's not.
• Advised that the owner of the garage that has had some water damage doesn't feel
that the tree (Tree 1) is causing it. Instead, there was a sprinkler problem that was
resolved. There is also an outside hose faucet connected to the outer garage wall,
which could be contributing to the damp. That owner told her personally that he
would not want to see that tree taken down. He has sent an email to this Planning
Commission pleading not to have Tree 1 cut down.
• Informed that she herself had sent a letter concentrating on saving Tree 1. She
also has information about Trees 2 and 3.
• Stated that the sewer outlet near Trees 2 and 3 was causing problems. The HOA
did nothing about that sewer problem until she called the City's Code Enforcement.
The problem was found and was fixed. Since the repair in 2007, there have been
no problems with this sewer outlet. At the time of repair, no one said that these
trees were causing sewer backups.
• Expressed concern that the HOA has now presented a new appeal based on
erroneous and/or inflated information.
• Said she is finding herself to be in a remarkable situation here, since she is a part
of this HOA. The HOA is not actually doing what the residents want to see happen.
• Added that she knows that several of the people that she has talked to want to see
the trees stay. There is no indication that these trees are causing the extent of
damage that the HOA now claiming. There may be some curb damage but they've
also said there's a trip hazard outside her condo, where she's never tripped.
• Said that she read the Arborist's report and appeal. She's read the various work
orders they've had for plumbing at the sewer outside 913 Apricot. She said that
none of this convinces her that these trees need to come down. They're beautiful
trees and they really should stay where they are. The HOA is supposed to speak
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for us (owners). Instead it is sour grapes rather than actual fact that their claims
have merit.
• Stated that she would like to see all three trees stay.
Commissioner Rocha asked Ms. Alison Dunford why the HOA would be so interested
in removing these trees if they are not the cause of the sewer problems.
Ms. Alison Dunford:
• Pointed out that the HOA was originally saying that it was because these trees
were cracking the curb and the pavement.
• Added that the HOA is now saying that the roots are invasive into the sewer. That
claim was after she had called them about not wanting to see these trees come
down.
• Reminded that in 2007, they fixed whatever problem there was with the sewer.
• Recounted that between 2003 and 2007, she had the sewer back up eight or nine
times without the HOA properly responding until she had called in Code
Enforcement. That's when they got involved.
• Added that at that time no one said that these trees had to be cut down to fix the
sewer problem.
Commissioner Rocha said what he is trying to get at is this - is there something that is
not in the report that Ms. Alison Dunford feels is the HOA's motivation other than the
cost savings on future repairs that the HOA might have by the removal of these trees?
Ms. Alison Dunford replied no, not that she knows of.
Mr. Mark Kelleher, Resident on Apricot Avenue:
• Said that his home is located across the road from this development site.
• Explained that he wrote a letter that was included in the packet.
• Said that the reason he wrote is that he was getting concerned about the number of
trees that were coming down in his own HOA and in the area in general. It is a bit
of a concern when mature trees that have a value of $30,000 each get removed.
That represents about $90,000 worth of trees being removed for about $2,000
worth of plumbing and curb repairs.
• Said that he has questions about what the CEQA statement in the report means.
• Added that since Mr. Canon's explanation for the water in his garage doesn't match
the HOA's explanation, what gives there?
• Reported that his HOA across the road had a similar situation. Their curb was
cracking supposedly caused by two really nice magnolia trees. Those trees were
removed and some "twigs" were planted in their place. Twelve months later, in
August, they replaced the curbing. By October, it was cracked again despite the
tree removal.
Mr. Boris Voh, Resident on Apricot Avenue:
• Said that his neighbor, Mr. Canon, is at work and he will represent him briefly this
evening.
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• Said that this request for tree removal represents another "logging" expedition.
• Pointed out that projects of this size need approval by a majority of owners within
an HOA according to the CC&Rs. This Board obviously ignored that.
• Said that Tree 1 is located near Mr. Canon's garage. There was a problem with the
sprinkler next to his wall. Water was trickling into his garage from both sides. That
sprinkler was removed several years ago. There are some residual stains on the
cinder block inside the garage but that harms no one. There is no correlation
whatsoever with Tree 1 and problems with this garage.
• Said of the other two trees (2 and 3), while there were a number of repairs over the
years, finally the sewer problem was corrected two years ago by digging out and
replacing a six to seven foot section of rusty pipe in the sewer line and the problem
was resolved. Ms. Dunford has had no problems since that time.
• Stated that he has to question the need to remove three trees here.
• Pointed out that this is a relatively new Board with relatively new owners who have
little history or knowledge of the way things should be done.
• Said that it takes 20 to 30 years for newly planted "twigs" to mature into trees like
these.
• Said that these trees provide day-long shade for the Units J and K.
• Stated that there is no justification of the correlation between these trees and the
sewer and/or water damage as the Association is claiming.
• Reported that Commissioner Reynolds came in person and inspected the property
and agreed.
• Said that this is a 30-year-old complex. Things do crack but that doesn't harm
anyone. That's plain nonsense.
• Said that there was already another tree removal several months earlier this year
where they claimed structural damage. He said that he went and spoke to the
resident who owns the garage impacted at that time. She said that no one came to
talk with her. She had no damage that she was aware of. There were no cracks in
the wall, no water seepage, nothing.
• Said that he also went to talk with the resident above who showed him the thermal
gap in the concrete pad in the first floor unit, which is what was being referred to as
structural damage.
Commissioner Alster:
Stated her appreciation of Mr. Boris Voh's investigative work. It's very impressive.
Asked for details about the rusty pipe that was previously removed from the sewer
line.
Mr. Boris Voh said that it was a six to seven foot rusty section of pipe that was dug out
and replaced. Rust build up is the likely reason that this sewer line would occasionally
back up. Once it was repaired, there have been no problems since. He added that
there was no root intrusion at all.
Commissioner Alster asked Mr. Boris Voh how he found out about the rusty pipe.
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Mr. Boris Voh said that Ms. Alison Dunford told hm. He added that she had talked to
the final repair crew. They told her there was no tree impact. It was just a rusty pipe
that they replaced.
Ms. Julie Mann, Resident on Apricot Avenue:
• Advised that one of the reasons that she bought into this complex is because of the
trees. There is a big redwood tree right outside her front door.
• Stated that to her these trees add to the value of the development.
• Reported that a Board member was complaining about the balls that drop from
these trees, saying that they presented a slip hazard.
• Declared her opinion on that as being, "Oh, please. Life has dangers."
• Said that she is really concerned about cutting down trees.
• Said that she bought here 21 years ago. While it used to be an oven at the back
wall, since the trees have gotten tall enough they offer shade and make it livable.
• Said that removal of these trees would really impact the quality of living there.
• Added that cutting the trees down and planting new ones could take decades for
them to grow. She said that she is running out of decades. She doesn't have 20 to
30 years to wait for the trees to grow up to make it a nice place again.
• Stated that she is really opposed to the removal of any trees unless they are dead,
dying or diseased. There's just no reason to do it.
Commissioner Alster asked if the balls that fall from the tree had been given as a
reason for removal.
Ms. Julie Mann said that was what was articulated as a reason to replace these trees
with different trees. She said that she herself says just sweep them up. It's not a big
deal.
Vice Chair Gibbons asked if an HOA representative is here wishing to speak. There
was no one present from the HOA.
Vice Chair Gibbons closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 1.
Commissioner Alster:
• Said that she was impressed with the residents and their investigative efforts
particularly on the issue of pipe rust that was instead blamed on the tree roots.
• Said that she originally had read the service repair reports and thought that these
trees had to be removed as they're a hazard to the plumbing.
• Stated that she had thought that the HOA could only pay so many times for the
same repairs.
• Added that it now seems that these trees are just an inconvenience as they have
those balls. However, we don't really know that is their position since there is no
HOA representative here this evening to address it.
• Said that these are older trees but they are not diseased.
• Advised that she is now leaning toward leaving the trees.
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Commissioner Rocha:
• Said that during his site visit to Apricot he didn't see any serious damage.
• Added that he is inclined to support the denial of this Tree Removal Permit. Given
what he is hearing tonight and what he saw on his site visit, it is difficult to support
this removal.
• Said that he is pleased that this HOA did properly pursue this Tree Removal Permit
process.
Commissioner Reynolds:
• Thanked the Planning staff for the packet they provided. It was very informative.
• Expressed appreciation for the comments by residents this evening.
• Reported that he had made a site visit the previous day and looked at everything
carefully. He said that he didn't see any damage near Tree 1 or 2 at all. There is
no evidence of stairs being lifted. The curb cracks were found all around the
complex and not just isolated to the areas around these three trees.
• Said that he did see some damage from Tree 3. It was actually lifting up a utility
box (electric junction box) that could potentially need to be repaired or replaced at a
later date. He said that he did not know where that junction box feeds and whether
it's to the units themselves or the common lighting areas but it's not significant and
probably will be some time off before it needs to be repaired or replaced.
• Added that he did not see any mitigating circumstances to require removal of these
trees.
• Stated that the work orders that he did review included no invoices that explain
what plumbing work was done and what was the cause of the blockage to the
plumbing. We're basically reading one side of the story and not getting what was
repaired or replaced.
• Reported that he did try to make contact with the four people who wrote letters and
did speak over the phone with two of them to get their side of the story. He said
that he asked them what alternatives they felt there were going forward if they
really wanted the trees to remain.
• Advised that he is also inclined to uphold the denial of the permit request.
Vice Chair Gibbons:
• Advised that she has a personal love-hate relationship with the liquidambar tree on
the property next door to her.
• Said that she has more of those little sticker balls in her yard than her neighbor
does but they have fun with them and both sides just pick them up.
• Stated that she does understand the issues of the lifted up sidewalks, shallow roots
and the balls. These are not the easiest or most lovable trees but they are beautiful
and mature trees.
• Said that what she is hearing is that this is really an issue within this condo complex
to address the long-term needs of the landscaping and the replacement program.
Coming forth with a complete plan is the reasonable way to go forward.
• Added that the Commission is at a disadvantage without the HOA representative
being here this evening.
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Commissioner Reynolds asked for comments on the CEQA issue raised earlier this
evening.
City Attorney William Seligmann said that the particular exemption excludes the
exception for mature "scenic" trees. In the opinion of staff, we are not dealing with
scenic trees, which in staff's view is like redwoods that one would go to see in a park
area or something like that.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Roseberry, seconded by
Commissioner Rocha, the Planning Commission adopted
Resolution No. 3962 denying an appeal and upholding the
Administrative Decision (PLN2009-98) made by the Community
Development Director to deny a Tree Removal Permit request to
remove three sweetgum (Liquidambar stryaciflua) trees within the
Pruneyard Vista Homeowner's Association property near 913 & 915
Apricot Avenue, by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Alster, Cristina, Gibbons, Reynolds, Rocha and
Roseberry
NOES: None
ABSENT: Ebner
ABSTAIN: None
Vice Chair Gibbons advised that this action is final. She said that she would like to
have additional discussion later on in the meeting regarding the number of trees
coming down in this area.
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Vice Chair Gibbons read Agenda Item No. 2 into the record as follows:
2. PLN2009-58 Public Hearing to consider the application of Mr. Mike Strouse, for
Strouse, M. Mid-Way Signs on behalf of Campbell Church of Christ/Campbell
Christian Schools, for a Sign Application (PLN2009-58) to allow a
manual readerboard sign for a public assembly use on property
owned by Campbell Church of Christ located at 1075 W.
Campbell Avenue in the P-F (Public Facilities) and R-1-6 (Single
Family Residential) Zoning Districts. Staff is recommending that
this project be deemed Categorically Exempt under CEQA.
Planning Commission action final unless appealed in writing to the
City Clerk within 10 calendar days. Project Planner: Daniel Fama,
Assistant Planner
Mr. Daniel Fama, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report as follows:
• Advised that the applicant is seeking approval of a Sign Permit to allow the
construction of a manual readerboard sign to serve Campbell Church of Christ and
Campbell Christian Schools. The project site is on two parcels fronting Campbell
Avenue at the corner with Victor Avenue.
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• Said that the proposed sign is shown within a stucco monument. The sign would
have three internally illuminated signage elements including a double row of
channel letters in two panels. The entire sign would total 28.5 square feet of sign
area with the readerboard portion equaling 14.5 square feet. The sign is proposed
to be located on Campbell Avenue, west of the intersection with Victor. The sign,
including the base, would extend 11 feet within the 15-foot landscaping strip along
Campbell Avenue.
• Reported that the Sign Ordinance requires that a manual readerboard for a public
assembly use meet the requirements for land uses that are public, semi-public or
institutional.
• Said that this proposed sign meets the required minimum fixed seating standard as
well as the applicable sign area, height and design requirements. However, there
may be some question regarding the proposed location. To ensure that the sign is
not placed within the public right-of-way, staff has provided a recommended
change to the conditions of approval requiring verification of property lines.
• Recommended that the Planning Commission adopt a resolution approving this
sign.
Commissioner Alster presented the Site and Architectural Review Committee report as
follows:
• SARC reviewed this item at its meeting on September 22, 2009, and had the
following comments:
o Remove the banner located on the fence along Campbell Avenue.
o Verify that the sign would not be located within the public right-of-way.
o Trim or remove the bushes at the corner as they represent a potential sight
obstruction.
o Explain why the sign is located at the corner.
Vice Chair Gibbons asked staff to respond to those comments.
Planner Daniel Fama:
• Said that the applicant has indicated that they will remove the banner.
• Said that staff was informed by the applicant that the bushes at the corner serve to
screen the children away from the sidewalk. He said he would work with the
applicant to find something more appropriate that doesn't diminish the sight lines.
• Stated that the applicant would explain why they are placing the sign at the corner.
• Said that as to the issue of the right-of-way, there is a question as to the width of
the sidewalk. The Public Works Department has indicated that the right-of-way
extends to about 10 feet from the face of curb. So depending on the exact width,
the sign where it is now may or may not be within aright-of-way by within the
margin of a foot.
• Said that staff will try to deal with that within the Building Permit process and work
with Public Works to find the exact location of that property line. That may require
the applicant to shrink the sign a little bit, perhaps cut off some of the edges, but
nothing too major.
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Vice Chair Gibbons asked if the applicant is aware of those situations or conditions.
Planner Daniel Fama replied yes.
Vice Chair Gibbons opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2.
Mr. Gary Anderson, Midway Sign Company:
• Said that the reason for placing the sign on that particular curvature of the street is
that it is the best place for visibility from both sides. It's approximately 60 feet from
the corner so it gives plenty of setback from the corner so there's no interference
whatsoever with traffic.
• Said that as far as removing the bush or shrub located there, it's already been
decided that removal would be no problem.
• Stated that the sign is very attractive. It fits well with the neighborhood and with the
structure of the church.
• Pointed out that up to this point they really had no effective site identification. The
sign that they did have there is set way back low on the ground within too many
trees. You really couldn't see it there when passing by.
• Added that for many years he didn't know the church even existed at this location.
• Assured that this is a perfect location for the sign. It was designed very well to fit
into the neighborhood.
Vice Chair Gibbons closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2.
Commissioner Reynolds:
• Reported that he went down to review the site and actually drove right by it the first
time, having completely missed the sign that is currently there.
• Stated that he walked around the site and it looks like this is going to be an
exceptional location for the sign. It is very fitting for the architecture that is currently
there.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Rocha, seconded by Commissioner
Alster, the Planning Commission adopted Resolution No. 3963
approving a Sign Application (PLN2009-58) to allow a manual
readerboard sign for a public assembly use on property owned by
Campbell Church of Christ located at 1075 W. Campbell Avenue,
with the modified conditions, by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Alster, Cristina, Gibbons, Reynolds, Rocha and
Roseberry
NOES: None
ABSENT: Ebner
ABSTAIN: None
Vice Chair Gibbons advised that this action is final unless appealed in writing to the
City Clerk within 10 calendar days.
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Vice Chair Gibbons read Agenda Item No. 3 into the record as follows:
3. PLN2009-82 Public Hearing to consider the application of Mr. Freddy Seen, on
PLN2009-83 behalf of Banducci Associates Architects, Inc., for a Site and
PLN2009-110 Architectural Review Permit and Conditional Use Permit
PLN2009-111 (PLN2009-82) to allow the construction of a 9,038 square foot
Seen, F. building with automotive repair uses; a Variance (PLN2009-83) to
allow reduced setbacks; a Tree Removal Permit (PLN2009-110)
to allow the removal of two protected trees; and a Fence
Exception (PLN2009-111) to allow asix-foot high fence within a
front setback on property owned by Mr. John Kirkorian located at
175 Cristich Lane in a M-1-S (Light Industrial) Zoning District.
Staff is recommending that this project be deemed Categorically
Exempt under CEQA. Planning Commission action final unless
appealed in writing to the City Clerk within 10 calendar days.
Project Planner: Steve Prosser, Associate Planner
Mr. Steve Prosser, Associate Planner, presented the staff report as follows:
• Advised that the applicant is seeking a Site and Architectural Review Permit and
Conditional Use Permit to allow the construction of an approximately 9,000 square
foot commercial structure to be used for automotive repair on a vacant parcel
located within the M-1 (Light Industrial) Zoning District.
• Said that the applicant is also requesting a Variance to allow construction of a
structure with a reduced side setback; a Tree Removal Permit to remove two trees
currently located on the property; and a Fence Exception to allow the construction
of a six-foot wrought iron fence within the first 15 feet of the property frontage.
• Explained that this property is a currently vacant parcel located on the west side of
Cristich Lane, north of E. McGlincy Lane and south of Campbell Technology
Parkway, within the M-1 (Light Industrial) Zoning District.
• Said that the subject parcel fronts a private drive (Cristich Lane) where there is
currently no curb, gutter or sidewalks. Highway 17 borders on the west with
industrial and serve commercial uses bordering the property on the north, south
and east.
• Said that the proposed project requires the following entitlements: a Conditional
Use Permit and Site and Architectural Review Permit to allow the construction of a
new commercial building with the establishment of an automotive repair use within
an M-1 Zoning District; a Variance to allow a reduced side setback; a Tree
Removal Permit to allow the removal of two protected ash trees and a Fence
Exception to allow the installation of a six-foot wrought iron fence where a 3.5 foot
fence would be allowed.
• Said that the proposed site plan illustrates construction of a new single-story
masonry building with two tenant spaces located along the northern property line.
The Public Works Department is requiring a condition of approval for the dedication
of right-of-way and a deferred street improvement agreement to accommodate
future installation of curbs, gutters and sidewalks and landscaping within this future
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right-of-way. The proposed project includes 14 percent landscaping where 12
percent is required.
• Stated that staff recommends approval of the proposed landscaping as it appears
to meet the intent of the Ordinance while retaining as many parking spaces
possible for the proposed site design.
• Informed that the proposed business hours for automotive uses is 8 a.m. to 6 p.m.
daily. At no time shall customers be on site where auto repair activities occur prior
to 8 a.m. or after 6 p.m.
• Provided project data as follows: Net lot is .57 acres. Building coverage is 37
percent. Paving coverage is 49 percent with landscaping at 14 percent. The FAR
is .37 where a maximum of .40 is allowed. The parking provided is 26 spaces.
Zoning is M-1 (Light Industrial), which allows auto repair uses with a conditional
Use Permit. This proposed project is consistent with the site's General Plan Land
Use designation of Light Industrial.
• Said that the proposed design is of a contemporary industrial commercial block
building with a flat roof. The architectural elevations depict a modern one-story
commercial building with three distinct block styles providing some variation to a
standard block wall. The wall height of the tenant space located along the street
frontage has been lowered and includes a suspended aluminum awning to provide
some articulation along the street elevations and to minimize the bulk of the
building as viewed from the street.
• Explained that vehicular access to the site would be provided via one new driveway
located to the south of the proposed building near the parcel's southeast corner.
• Said that required parking for auto repair uses and office uses for this project would
be 36 parking spaces. The proposed project is providing 26 parking spaces.
Therefore a parking adjustment would be required.
• Said that staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve a parking
adjustment for the proposed project based on the Planning Commission's
preliminary acceptance to modify the parking demand for automotive uses per the
Parking Study Session feedback of their Study Session meeting held on September
8, 2009, at which time staff proposed an adjustment of the City's parking
requirements as follows: Two parking spaces per vehicle service bay plus one
parking space per 225 square feet of non-service gross floor area.
• Added that an analysis of the proposed project using staff's recommended parking
requirement results in a parking demand of just under 20 parking spaces for both
the proposed and future automotive uses. Although eight of the parking spaces are
tandem, which are located to the rear of the structure and behind the security gate,
a coordinated effort to move the vehicles in and out of the tandem spaces will
achieve a realistic parking configuration. In this regard, staff is confident, based on
the type of use presented, a parking adjustment is appropriate.
• Reported that the applicant is also requesting approval to store vehicles that are
currently under repair in the secured tandem parking area behind the proposed
commercial building. Staff is supportive of this request and has added a condition
of approval requiring that all vehicles under repair that are stored outside during
non-business hours must be screened from public view.
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• Said that the applicant is proposing to remove two protected ash trees. Staff has
reviewed the Tree Removal Permit applicant and arborist's report and concurs with
the arborist's recommendation for removal. Staff has included as a condition of
approval the planting of replacement trees.
• Explained that the proposed project requires the approval of a Variance for the
failure to meet minimum side yard setback requirements for the northern property
line. The applicant has submitted a response defending the request for a Variance
with a statement on how the five Variance findings may be met. Staff has reviewed
the applicant's statements and findings and has found that the Planning
Commission could support the granting of a Variance for the proposed project
based on the fact that more than 60 percent of the existing industrial buildings
within the M-1 (Light Industrial) Zoning District were constructed at or close to zero
side setbacks. Support for that is in the narrative of the staff report and in the
findings (attachment 2).
• Added that even though staff has found that it can support a Variance, staff has
also found that there is a potential alternative design available that may avoid a
side yard setback Variance while meeting the current site development standards.
The alternative site plan includes the construction of two new buildings that provide
service bay openings that are not visible from public view.
• Reported that SARC reviewed this project on September 22, 2009, and their
comments with staff responses have been provided in the staff report.
• Said that staff recommends that the Planning Commission find the proposed
project Categorically Exempt pursuant to the exemption pertaining to infill
development.
• Recommended that the Planning Commission adopt resolutions approving a
Conditional Use Permit/Site and Architectural Review Permit; Variance, Tree
Removal Permit and Fence Exception.
Commissioner Alster presented the Site and Architectural Review Committee report as
follows:
• SARC reviewed this item at its meeting on September 22, 2009, and had the
following comments:
o Recommended that staff provide the meeting minutes and relevant documents
as reference materials for the previously approved Variance, which is in close
proximity of the proposed project site and located at 813 Cristich Lane.
o Recommended that the applicant revise the required Variance findings. SARC
acknowledged the merits of a Variance request for properties in the project area
based on the consistency of existing and proposed uses and the historic
development pattern of the Zoning District.
Vice Chair Gibbons opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 3.
Vice Chair Gibbons closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 3.
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Commissioner Roseberry:
• Said that he thought this was a good project. It requires a few exceptions but, in
context of location, site and uses in that area, they are relatively minor.
• Added that this area is a hodgepodge or eclectic. This project seems like
movement in the right direction.
• Reiterated that he thinks this is a great project and he hopes to see it move
forward .
Commissioner Rocha:
• Offered a couple of observations.
• Pointed out that it is typical in construction of most industrial buildings to have a
skylight built into the roof and he doesn't see any roof plan with this project. With
four roll up doors, there would be at least four skylights, which would serve to
provide internal natural lighting.
• Said that in terms of height of building, this one is proposed at 30 feet.
• Questioned if there is some thought to the possibility of adding a mezzanine
somewhere down the road?
• Opined that 30 feet is a pretty high parapet.
• Said that as far as construction materials, he believed that the Kaeding building did
something to mitigate the appearance of the concrete blocky building.
• Advised that he is not warm and fuzzy with the lot line adjustment and that he is not
a fan of tandem parking.
• Pointed out that there are 26 total parking spaces, including the eight tandem
spaces. There are 10 employees for this business and that is not counting the
1,700 square feet of space that is left for rental at another date.
• Said he hopes the applicant could address some of these questions.
Vice Chair Gibbons asked staff to verify that there would be two fences on this
property one serving as a rear security fence and the second a front security fence. Is
that correct?
Planner Steve Prosser replied yes, that's correct.
Vice Chair Gibbons re-opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 3.
Mr. Dan Brodnik, Project Representative, appeared before the Commission.
Commissioner Rocha asked Mr. Dan Brodnik if he had given any thought to the
skylights or is it just easier to have the flat roof without them. He added that he could
fully appreciate that this is just a body shop.
Mr. Dan Brodnik said that they really haven't considered that yet because they were
kind of directed to the facade and not really the roof structure at this stage. In a
general sense, they wanted to be sure that they could get through this process before
they actually put structural details together. He added that they could absolutely
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consider skylights if they would serve to cut down on energy costs. That would be a
big deal.
Commissioner Rocha said that they've come a long way with skylights. He asked Mr.
Dan Brodnik about the 30 foot building height.
Mr. Dan Brodnik explained that this auto repair facility is going to have lifts to lift
vehicles up in order for automotive repair work to be performed. There's not going to
be pits in there so cars are going to be lifted up to be repaired by workers underneath
them. That's why the building height is necessary.
Commissioner Rocha said that 30 feet is still high.
Mr. Dan Brodnik explained that this shop will also be working on buses.
Commissioner Rocha said okay, so the height of the bus would be in addition. That
makes sense. In terms of the actual facade, to his eye this varied block style is rather
busy. He asked Mr. Dan Brodnik if he had considered something else like a stripe.
Mr. Dan Brodnik:
• Responded that they were not stuck on this particular look. It's just something that
the architect tried to come up with to give the building a little pizzazz so it didn't look
so industrial.
• Added that they haven't yet totally ruled out atilt-up building but its right there at the
threshold whether to use tilt-up or block construction.
• Continued that right now it looks like for anything under 10,000 square feet, from a
construction standpoint, that block is cheaper so that's why they're going that way.
Who knows? It could still be a tilt up building.
• Said that they are not in love with this one look but just thought it was more
aesthetically pleasing than a standard block building.
Commissioner Rocha asked about the lot line.
Mr. Dan Brodnik said that they looked at that. The best way to do this site layout was
to look at getting vehicles into the building. They need a 20-foot wide driveway for Fire
access so they would lose parking spots with other layouts. By shoving this building
onto one side that gives them more opportunity to put non-tandem parking and also to
be able to get bigger vehicles in there whether it's a truck or a bus and whether this is
used as an industrial building or a vehicle repair shop.
Commissioner Rocha said that he would suggest that once a building goes down the
automotive repair path it will likely remain automotive.
Mr. Dan Brodnik said yes, they know that but they also have to look at it. That's what
their ultimate goal is. They have a tenant in line to take the place - to move into this
building - so they're ready to move forward with that.
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Commissioner Roseberry said he wants to make the point that the Commission is
approving a specific project design so the look of it is a part of what is being approved.
So when Mr. Dan Brodnik states that their design is in flux - that's a little scary.
Mr. Dan Brodnik said that they could change it but don't want to. Now, block is
cheaper.
Commissioner Roseberry cautioned Mr. Dan Brodnik that if he changes his mind pm
design later on the project might have to come back to the Commission.
Mr. Dan Brodnik said he appreciates that.
Commissioner Roseberry said that the other point he just wanted to bring up for
Commissioner Rocha is that Condition 43 requires a LEED checklist. Those types of
energy efficient options (like skylights) are going to get caught in that process.
Commissioner Rocha said that if the Commission was talking about Dell Avenue this
would be a very different standard. Given this area, this building will probably be one
of the better looking buildings on the street. He said he would still like to see
something a little more advanced but he thinks he could live with this.
Commissioner Roseberry said that while he is not a fan of tandem parking this is
probably the best use of tandem parking when they have someone who has the keys
to every vehicle while it's under their control and they know how to manage the tandem
parking.
Commissioner Rocha said that the one thing that he would not want to see would be
for this to become a graveyard. He does not want to see vehicles scattered here and
there in disrepair. He doesn't want to see this area become an overflow area.
Mr. Dan Brodnik said no. He added that they have had a conversation specifically
about that with their potential tenant. He assured that they don't want that to occur
either as the landlord and property owner. He said that this operator's idea is that he
wants to have most vehicles inside their building for security reasons. He said that it
would not be storage as this business does not make money storing vehicles.
Commissioner Reynolds said that he likes this building design and thinks it's beautiful,
especially when comparing it with what's out there right now. He said he would like to
see some hint or suggestion of solar power if that's possible.
Mr. Dan Brodnik said that they are always looking at that possibility with their projects
although they haven't done it yet. They haven't gone that far with the specifics for this
project until they get through this Planning process.
Commissioner Gibbons said that one of the policies that the City has put in place
recently is the LEED checklist that encourages, to the extent that the City is able,
applicants to incorporate all kinds of appropriate and innovative energy conservation
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methods. Solar might be one but at this point we don't typically have the ability to
make a requirement of that.
Director Kirk Heinrichs said that adopting a Green Ordinance is on the Department's
work plan and should be coming forward.
Mr. Dan Brodnik said that on the properties they own, they are going around and
updating exterior lighting. One reason is to reduce energy use and to bring down the
cost. So they are actually very aware of energy conservation and it's something they
are very keen on doing.
Vice Chair Gibbons:
• Said she wanted to make a couple of comments.
• Stated that she thought this was a good project and the right project for the
neighborhood. It's consistent with what has been done on other properties in this
neighborhood and she is very comfortable with that.
• Added that what she'd like to do is make it clear that there are five requirements for
granting a Variance. She said that she read the staff report and the findings and
thinks they're a little unclear. What she is basically trying to say is that while she
can leave them standing the way they are in this case, the most important thing that
she is trying to point out is the City does not have an obligation to allow a property
owner to build anything that they feel is the right use on the property. It is to
balance the applicant's use of the property while being consistent with Ordinances
and Zoning and the surrounding properties.
• Said she just wanted the record to be very clear that this is being approved and
basically the five findings are more or less being met on the premise that it is
consistent with the neighborhood.
• Said that she just personally wants to be very clear with that point. She does not
want this to set a precedent where someone could come afterwards and say they
want to build something because you let someone else build it because that's what
they wanted to build there. That's really not what the Commission is saying here.
Commissioner Rocha said that the language in the report reads that this project "could"
meet the standard. He agreed that each new applicant needs to understand that each
project is analyzed on a case-by-case basis. He said he concurs with the comments of
Vice Chair Gibbons.
Vice Chair Gibbons re-closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 3.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Roseberry, seconded by
Commissioner Cristina, the Planning Commission took the
following actions:
^ Adopted Resolution No. 3964 granting a Site and Architectural
Review Permit and Conditional Use Permit (PLN2009-82) to allow
the construction of a 9,038 square foot building and establish
automotive repair uses; and
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^ Adopted Resolution No. 3965 granting a Variance (PLN2009-83)
to allow reduced side setbacks; and
^ Adopted Resolution No. 3966 granting a Tree Removal Permit
(PLN2009-110) to allow the removal of two protected trees; and
^ Adopted Resolution No. 3967 granting a Fence Exception
(PLN2009-111) to allow asix-foot high fence within a front
setback;
on property owned by Mr. John Kirkorian located at 175 Cristich
Lane, by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Alster, Cristina, Gibbons, Reynolds, Rocha and
Roseberry
NOES: None
ABSENT: Ebner
ABSTAIN: None
Vice Chair Gibbons advised that this action is final unless appealed in writing to the
City Clerk within 10 calendar days.
***
REPORT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
The Director's Report was accepted as submitted.
ADJOURNMENT
The Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 8:51 p.m. immediately to a Study
Session and subsequently to the next Regular Planning Commission Meeting of
October 27, 2009. A
SUBMITTED BY: Corinne A. Shinn, Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY: Elizabeth Gibbons, Vice Chair
ATTEST: Kirk Heinrichs, Secretary