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PC Min 03/15/1977PLANNING COMMISSION CITY OF CAh1PBELL, CALIFORNIA TUESDAY, 7:30 P.M. MINUTES MARCH 15, 1977 The Planning Commission of the City of Campbell convened this day in regular session, at the regular meeting place, the Council Chambers of the City Hall, 75 North Central Avenue, Campbell, California. ROLL CALL Commissioners: Hebard, Campos, Vierhus, Pack, Lubeckis; PRESENT Chairman Dickson; Secretary Arthur A. Kee; Senior Planner Philip J. Stafford; City Attorney J. Robert Dempster; Engineering Manager Bill Helms; Recorder Phyllis Acker. ABSENT Commissioner Samuelson. Commissioner Pack corrected the minutes of March 1, 1977, page 18 - Condition Four should read "Landscaping plan to be brought back to the Planning Commission." APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Campos moved that the minutes of the P~1arch 1, 1977 meeting be approved as corrected, seconded by Commissioner Pack and unanimously adopted. COMMUPJICATIONS Mr•. Kee reported that the communications received relate to specific items on the agenda and would be taken up at the appropriate time. ARCHITECTURAL APPROVALS "S" 76-23 Continued application of F. James Miller, on behalf of f~li l l er, F. J . the U-Save Rockery, fc ~ a~~: ~~~~.' of plans to change the a-Save Rockery location of landscaping for a rockery-nursery to be located on property known as 500 Railway Avenue in a M-2-S (Heavy Industrial) Zoning District. Commissioner Pack reported that the applicant was not present at the Architectural Review Committee meeting and the committee recommends continuance in order that the applicant can come back with revised plans. The applicant has indicated that he wanted to retain the cyclone fence and slat it. The Architectural Review Committee was not in favor of this. Mr. Kee reported that the applicant is in agreement with the continuance. Comni.ssioner Hebard moved that "S" 76-23 be continued to the next regularly scheduled meeting, seconded by Commissioner Vierhus and unanimously adopted. "S" 76-45 Application of Mr. E. L. Finch, and Control Data Corporation, Pinch, E. L. for an extension of time for an approval of a request to Control Data Corp. place two trailers on property known as 700 West Hamilton Avenue in a C-2-S (General Commercial) Zoning District. r -~ y Commissioner Pack reported that the Architectural Review Conunittee met with the applicant arrd would recoirrrrre-rd approval subject to the conditions as stated in the staff report. Commissioner Hebard stated that this extension will be approximately ten months from when the approval was granted arrd the building is now occupied. He asked what the justification was for the extension? Mr. Kee responded by advising that the applicant's business is expanding more than he can keep up with arrd the additional space is needed at this time. Staff has indicated to the applicant that another continuance could not be recommended unless additional facilities were under construction and staff has emphasized this to the applicant. Staff has also recommended that a new faithful performance bond be posted with the City to insure removal of the trailers on or before October 4, 1977. Also, Condition No. 2 reads: Applicant to meet all requirements of the Building Department. Commissioner Dickson asked if the construction was still going on. Mr. Kee advised that to his knowledge the building is not completely finished. The company is in the transition period at this time. Commissioner° Pack stated that the company has projected a good neighbor policy in that they have provided a great deal of landscaping to buffer their development from the surrounding residential property. Their business is growing rapidly and their only alternative is to use the trailers and on that basis the committee felt that the Cornm-ission could grant the requested use of the trailers. The applicant has tried to follow the "letter of the law". Commissioner Vierhus moved that "S" 76-45 be approved subject to the following conditions: 1. Applicant to post a new faithful performance bond with the City to insure removal of trailers on or° before October 4, 1977. 2. Applicant to meet all requirements of the Building Department. This motion was seconded by Commissioner Campos and unanimously adopted. "S" 77-1 Continued application of Mr. Robert Carl Firato for Firato, R. C. approval of plans to convert two retail shops into a disco for young adults on property known as 476 East Campbell Avenue in a C-2-S (General Commercial) Zoning District. Commissioner Pack reported that the committee reviewed this application with the applicant and P~r•. Polizzi at some length and the recommrendation of the committee is to go along with the staff's recommendation of denial of the plans as presented. The applicant has indicated that he was agreeable to this and could come back with revised plans and with the legal description of all the property involved and with a letter from the property owners stating that the applicant has a right to the application. The parking shown on the plan is not adequate. Commissioner Vierhus stated that the record should show that rre abstained from discussion on this item. -2- Mr. Kee advised that Mr. Polizzi, representing the applicant, was in the audience and wished to be heard. Mr. Polizzi, 1479 Camden Avenue, representing the landowner and Mr. Firato, stated that they have tried to work out a feasible parking plan. He stated that his concern was to yet a feeling from the Commission as to the use of the three parcels of property for parking. The proposed use requires 38 parking spaces. He stated that the landowner was willing to give the required parking providing mini storage warehouse buildings could be constructed on the outer edge of the property. He asked for an indication from the Corrunission that this would be possible. Mr. Kee pointed out on the map the area along Dillon Avenue which is shown for industrial land use and this proposal would provide commercial parking in an industrial zone. The applicant would have to apply for a P-D permit. If the Commission vaould be reluctant to recommend the parking in conjunction with the building as shown on the plan, than the applicant would not proceed with thier request. It would require the filing of a PD application for the parking on the industrial property. Mr. Kee advised that the previous plan showed the parking in the industrial area and the Public Works Department and staff reviewed that plan and considered it to be workable. However, he would have to obtain a PD permit since the property is in the PD zone and the land use on the General Plan is shown for industrial. Mr. Polizzi asked the Corm~ission as to their feeling if they came in with a P-D application for parking and showing a couple mini storage buildings on the property. Mr. Kee advised that the Commission could approve parking that is off-site. It would be a policy determination on the part of the Commission and the Council. Chairman Dickson stated that he could not give an approval for something they are going to submit. The plans may be feasible, but he stated that he was not going to say he would approve them without seeing the plans. Commissioner Campos stated that he shared Chairman Dickson's concern. The proposed plan is not before the Commission and he was not sure what a mini storage building looked like. He stated that he would not want to pass judgment on a plan that is not before the Commission. He stated he would like to see a definite plan. Commissioner Pack stated that the revised plan was reviewed by the committee and the committee recommends denial of the revised plan. Commissioner Hebard stated that the plans marked "revised" are the ones before the Commission and if they are approved by the Commission and Council, what does that do to the future industrial use of the pr-operty? Commissioner Pack reported that the plans marked "revised" could not be approved because the parking is not proper. Mr. Polizzi stated that 38 parking spaces are required for the proposed use and they cannot get that much parking on the one lot and he asked the Commission what their feeling would be to use adjoining industrial property for° commercial parking. - 3- Chairman Dickson stated that the plan has sufficient parking but would require the applicant to get parking in a P-D area. Mr. Kee stated that if he makes the application, it would be up to the Commission and Council to approve it and -they would have to make certain findings in doing so. Chairman Dickson stated that once this is done, the property is indicated for parking for a commercial use. Mr. Kee advised that future industrial uses would be allowed. Chairman Dickson stated that the applicant is requesting to use the property for parking now and maybe later on he can come back and get approval for industrial use. Commissioner Hebard stated that the staff's reconmendation is based on parking only, but the Commission has had communications from others that speak to other aspects of this development. He stated that the parking may be academic, but he would hate to have the applicant spend another two or four weeks in time and expenses in trying to work out the parking problem when there are other aspects that need to be addressed. Commissioner Campos stated that any discussion would be moot until the parking is revolved. P•1r. Kee reviewed the communications that have been received from the Parks and Recreation Commission, Civic Improvement Commission, the Youth Commission, and the Chief of Police. Commissioner Hebard stated that the staff's reconvnendation speaks only to parking. Mr. Kee stated that is correct. The staff's reconvnendation prior to this one was for approval of the project. The reason for that is that the Ordinance would permit this kind of use in the C-2-S Zoning District and he read from the Ordinance the permitted uses in the C-2-S Zoning District. It would not require a use permit, or a special permit of any kind. The reason the applicant is before the Commission is because of the increase in the intensity of use. In the staff's opinion, this proposal was are increase in the intensity of use and, therefore, required site and architectural approval. The use wound require 38 parking spaces and in order to provide that much parking, Mr. Polizzi withdrew the application and advised that they would prepare another plan. Commissioner Hebard moved that "S" 77-1 be denied without prejudice, seconded by Commissioner Lubeckis and unanimously adopted. (Commissioner Vierhus abstained}, "S" 77-2 Continued application of Mr. Richard Alexander for Alexander, R. approval of plans to construct a two-story, three-unit apartment complex on property known as 1535 Van Dusen Avenue in a R-h1 (Low-Medium Density Residential) Zoning District. -4- Commissioner Pack reported that the Architectural Review Committee discussed this application and Mr•. Kee presented what had transpired at the Transportation Commission meeting on March 14, 1977. Commissioner Hebard was also in attendance at that meeting arx~lasked that he remark on what transpired. She advised that the convnittee does recommend approval of the application. Commissioner Hebard advised that Supervisor Diridon would appear before the Commission and carry the Commission's comments to the Planning Commission. He advised that Supervisor Diridon will be present shortly after 9:00 p.m. and he requested that this item be continued until he is present. Chairman Dickson asked the applicant if he would agree to this. P1r. Jacobsen, A.I.A. representing Mr. Alexander, stated that he did not have prior. notice of Supervisor Diridon's appearance and he has scheduled another meeting which he s~ould attend at this time. If they had known about this earlier, he could have arranged the other meeting accordingly. Commissioner Pack asked Mr. Jacobsen if he felt that he should be in attendance for discussion on the item. Mr. Jacobsen stated that it would depend on the discussion the Commission is going to get into. Commissioner Hebard stated that he doubted the appearance of Supervisor Diridon would change anything that was discussed at the Transit Committee meeting. However, Supervisor Diridon felt he wanted to present the Board's position personnaly. Commissioner Campos was of the opinion that they should proceed with the application. He stated he was not saying that they shouldn't hear Supervisor Diridon, but the applicant is present and the committee is ready with a recommendation. Commissioner Hebard moved that "S" 77-2 be tabled until 9:30 p.m. Seconded by Commissioner Lubeckis and failed by the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners: Hebard, Lubeckis. NOES: Commissioners: Campos, Vierhus, Pack, Dickson. ABSENT: Commissioners: Samuelson. Cummissioner Vierhus moved that the plans be approved. No second. Chairman Dickson asked for the Architectural Review Committee comments. Commissioner Pack stated that the Ar°chitectural Review Committee reviewed this application and recommends approval as submitted, subject to the conditions recommended by staff. She requested that Mr. Kee report as to the Transit Commission's meeting. Mr. Kee reported on the discussions at the Transit Commission meeting and a test case which resulted in the City of Saratoga. The city denied the application and it was taken to court and on appeal to a higher court, the city was directed -5- to issue a building permit. If the City approves this application, it would pave the way for the City to contact the State and advise them what has happened. The Corridor is definitely a State project - it is not a local project. The Transit Commission recommended that the State be requested to permit the County to proceed with the preparation of the Environmental Impact Report Study required for the preservation of the West Valley Tra~~~spurtation Corridor and that criteria for purchase of right-of-way for "hardship" situations be developed. Also, the commission made the recommendation that Supervisor Diridon make the presentation to the Planning Commission. Cornntissioner Hebard stated that there was some concern expressed by the Transit Director that there were rumors to the effect that possibly the State was about to abandon the West Valley right-of-ways. Mr'. Pott had said that this one piece of property was important to them in that it would be a way to find out just what the State's intentions were in the West Valley Corridor and whether they were abandoning it or just abandoning it to the County. There was some discussion as to what they might ask the City Planning Commission to do. There might be some subsequent action that the Planning Conmmission could take if they approved the project. If they approved the project, they were to immediately notify the State and the Transit District that they would expect a building permit to be applied for very shortly and the City would notify them as soon as the application for building permit is received. Commissioner Vierhus stated that in light of the previous report, it might be wise to wait for Supervisor Diridon. Commissioner Hebard moved that "S" 77-2 be tabled until 9:30 p.m. Seconded by Commissioner Vierhus and failed by the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners: Hebard, Vierhus, Lubeckis. NOES: Commissioners: Campos, Pack, Dickson. ABSENT: Commissioners: Samuelson. Commissioner liebard asked to see the plans. Mr. Kee presented the plans and an aerial showing the location of the subject property. Staff has recommended approval of the project. Contrnissioner Hebard stated that he had no argument with the plans and the recommendation of the Architectural Review Committee, but he would not. support a motion to approve until after the Commission receives the comments from the Transit District. Chairman Dickson asked Mr. Kee if the recomrmendation to be made by Supervisor Diridon wasn't presented at the Transit District Commission meeting. Commissioner Kee stated there was no recommendation from the Board. There was considerable discussion on what action the Planning Conrrttission might pursue. There was direction to Mr. Pott to pursue an Environmental Impact Report for the preservation of the corridor and to establish criteria for the purchase of right-of-way of "hardship" situations. He did not recall any specific recommendation to this body for either approval or disapproval. Commissioner Campos moved for approval of "S" 77-2 subject to conditions recommended by staff. Motion seconded by Commissioner Pack. -6- 31(~ Conunissioner~ Hebard stated he did not want to vote against the plans and he did not want to vote until the Conunission hears the report from Supervisor Diridon. He stated he would abstain. AYES: Commissioners: Campos, Vierhus, Pack, Dickson. NOES: Commissioners: Lubeckis. ABSENT: Conunissioners: Samuelson. ABSTAIN: Commissioners: Hebard. Commissioner Pack moved that the staff be directed to send a letter to the County of Santa Clar-a and the State advising them that the application of Richard Alexander has been approved. Motion seconded by Commissioner Vierhus and adopted by the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners: Campos, Vierhus, Pack, Lubeckis, Dickson NOES: Commissioners: None ABSENT: Commissioners: Samuelson. ABSTAItJ: Commissioners: Hebard. Approval subject to the following conditions: 1. Width of the two-bedroom units to be reduced 0'3"; width of the three-bedroom unit to be reduced 0'6"; setback to north property line to be 8'6". 2. Property to be fenced and landscaped as indicated and as added in "red" on plan. 3. Landscape plan indicating type of plant material, location of hose bibs or sprinkler system and type of fencing to be submitted for approval of the Planning Director at time of application for building permit. 4. Landscaping shall be maintained in accordance with the approved landscape plan. 5. Faithful performance bond in the amount of X3,000 to be posted to insure landscaping, fencing and striping of parking ar-ea within three (3) months of completion of construction, or a~rplicant may file written agreement to complete landscaping, fencing and str-iping of parking area prior to final Building Department clearance. The applicant is notified as part of this application that he is required to meet the following conditions in accordance with Ordinances of the City of Campbell. A. All parking and driveway areas to be developed in compliance with Section 21.50 of the Campbell Municipal Code. All parking spaces to be provided with appropriate concrete curbs or bumper guar-ds. - 7- 317 B. Underground utilities to be provided as required by Section 20.16.070 of the Campbell Municipal Code. C. Plans submitted to the Building Department for underground utilities including water, sewer, electric, telephone and television cables, etc. D. Sign application to be submitted in accordance with provisions of the sign ordinance for all signs. No sign to be installed until application is approved and permit issued by the Building Department. E. Ordinance No. 782 of the Campbell Municipal Code stipulates that arry contract for the collection and disposal of refuse, garbage, wet garbage and rubbish produced within the limits of the City of Campbell shall be made with Green Valley Disposal Company. This requirement applies to all single family dwellings, multiple apartment units, to all commercial, business, industrial, manufacturing, and construction establishments. F. Trash container(s) of a size and quantity necessary to serve the development shall be located in area(s) approved by the Fire Department. Unless other- wise noted, enclosure(s) shall consist of a concrete floor surrounded by a solid wall or fence and have self-closing doors of a size specified by the Fire Department. All enclosures to be constructed at grade level. G. Applicant shall meet all State requirements for the handicapped.. PUBLIC WORKS REQUIREMENTS H. Dedication to 45' one-half street righrt-of-way on Pollard Road. I. Agreement and bond for construction of future street improvements to be furnished by applicant. J. Applicant to pay storm drainage area fee in the amount of $175.00. FIRE DEPARTMENT K. Provide "2A-IOBC" fire extinguishers. The applicant is notified that he shall comply with all applicable Codes or Ordinances of the City of Campbell which pertain to this development and are not herein specified. "S" 77-7 Application of Gordon C. Fischer for approval of plans Fischer, Gordon C. to construct an industrial building on property located at 1040 Dell Avenue in a M-1-S Zoning District. Commissioner Pack reported that tine applicant did not appear at the committee meeting. However, the Architectural Review Committee reviewed the application and would recommend approval subject to the attached conditions. ."1r. Kee reported that the staff recommendation is also for approval. Chairman Dickson noted that the staff corr>tnents in the write-up are that the landscaping is minimal. Mr. Kee reported that the landscaping has been increased and marked in "red" on the plans. -8- ~~ Commissioner Pack moved that "S" 77-7 be approved subject to the following conditions: 1. Property to be fenced and landscaped as indicated and as added in "red" on the plans. 2. Landscape plan indicating type of plant material, location of hose bibs or sprinkler system and type of fencing to be submitted for approval of the Planning Director at time of application for building permit. 3. Landscaping shall be maintained in accordance with the approved landscaped plan. 4. Faithful performance bond in ttre amount of $3,000 to be posted to insure landscapiny, fencing and striping of parking area within three (3) months of completion of construction, or applicant may file written agreement to complete landscaping, fencing and striping of parking area prior to final Building Department clearance. 5. All mechanical equipment located on roofs shall be screened as approved by the Planning Director. 6. Trash enclosure to be at grade level. The applicant is notified as part of this application that he is required to meet the following conditions in accordance with Ordinances of the City of Campbell. A. All parking and driveway areas to be developed in compliance with Section 21.50 of the Campbell Municipal Code. All parking spaces to be provided with appropriate concrete curbs or bumper guards. B. Underground utilities to be provided as required by Section 20.16.070 of the Campbell Municipal Code. C. Plans submitted to the Building Department for plan check shall indicate clearly the location of all connections for underground utilities including water, sewer, electric, telephone and television cables, etc. D. Sign application to be submitted in accordance with provisions of the Sign Ordinance for all signs. No sign to he installed until application is approved and permit issued by the Building Department. E. Ordinance No. 782 of the Campbell Municipal Code stipulates that any contract for the collection and disposal of refuse, garbage, wet garbage and rubbish produced within the limits of the City of Campbell shall be made with Green Valley Disposal Company. This r•equirernent applies to all single family dwellings, multiple apartment units, to all commercial, business, industrial, manufacturing, and construction establishments. F. Trash container(s) of a size and quantity necessary to serve the development shall be located in area(s) approved by the Fire Department. Unless other- wise noted, enclosure(s) shall consist of a concrete floor surrounded by a solid wall or fence and have self-closing doors of a size specified by the Fire Department. All enclosures to be constructed at grade level. - 9- 3 ~. 9 FIRE DEPARTMENT G. Provide "ZA-IOBC" fire extinyuishers for each leased space. H. Building plans to indicate location of trash enclosure in parking lot. PUBLIC WORKS I. Pay storm drainage area fee of $463.97. U. Install street lighting system. K. Obtain excavation permit for proposed driveway construction. L. Submit grading and drainage plan for approval of the Director of Public Works. The applicant is notified that he shall comply with all applicable Codes or Ordinances of the City of Campbell which pertain to this development and are not herein specified. This motion was seconded by Commissioner Lubeckis and unanimously adopted. "S" 77-8 Application of Mr. Roland W. Wacker for approval of Wacker, Roland W. plans to construct an industrial building on property known as 581 Division Street in a CM:B-80 (Controlled Manufacturing - 80,000 square feet minimum lot size) Zoning District. Commissioner Pack reported that the application was reviewed with the applicant and his neighbor, who will be joining in the building. The committee recommends continuance so revised plans can be submitted. The plans were not complete enough. Mr. Kee advised that this is in accord with the staff recommendation and the applicant is in agreement with the continuance. Commissioner Pack moved that "S" 77-8 be continued to the next regularly scheduled meeting, seconded by Commissioner Campos and unanimously adopted. PUBLIC HEARINGS PD 75-4 This is the time and place for continued public hearing Campbell Building on the application of Campbell Building and Investment & Investment Company Company, Inc. for approval of plans, elevations, and development schedule to allow construction of an office building on property known as 54 North Central Avenue in a P-D (Planned Development/Commercial) Zoning District. Mr. Kee advised that the staff has received a corrrmunication requesting a continuance for thirty days. Commissioner Campos moved that PD 75-4 be continued to the April 19, 1977, meeting, seconded by Commissioner Vierhus and unanimously adopted. -10- ~~1 y ~ `~ -,~~~,~ ~~ , ;~ ~~'~~At this point, Chairman Dickson asked for a show of hands of those persons in }~•.;;~ the audience waiting to speak on Items No. 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, and 14. A majority ~i'~1''of persons in the audience were -in attendance for Item No. 14. ~~~~~ _, `~~ Chairman Dickson announced that if there was no opposition from the members of the Commission, the next item on the agenda would be Item No. 11. PD 77-5 This is the time and place for public hearing to Prodis Associates consider the application of Prodis Associates for approval of plans, elevations, and development schedule to allow construction of 28 townhouses on property known as 105 Duncanville Court in a P-D (Planned Development/_. High Density Residential) Zoning District. Chairman Dickson asked for the report of the Architectural Review Committee. Commissioner Pack reported that the Architectural Review Committee met with the applicant and recommends approval of the application in accordance with the staff recommendation. ~ A change in Condition No. 1 is reconunended to divide it into two parts: ,. ,- ~~ . .~\\~ 1. Applicant to submit detailed fence plan for approval of the Planning Director. ~`` 2. The interior of the units must conform to minimum State standards and an \.~ ,~ ~~ accompanying report must be furnished by a certified noise consultant ~~, ~` ~,,~ certifying that there will be acceptable standards of sound attenuation. ,; ~~~~~_) Commissioner Hebard stated that he would abstain from discussion on this matter due to conflict of interest. Mr. Kee presented an aerial map showing the location of the subject property and advised that the application is for 28 townhouse units on a 1.66 acre parcel of land. The resulting density is approximately 17 units per acre. Tire area is shown on the General Plan as High Density (27 units per gross acre). It is the staff's opinion, and that of the alternate architectural advisor, that this project represents good principles of site design and will enhance the general area. Commissioner Pack stated that the site plans are very good arrd the development is not at as high a density as would be permitted under the General Plan. Commissioner Vierhus asked that the elevations be presented for review by the Commission. Chairman Dickson declared the public hearing open and asked if anyone wished to speak for or against the application. There being no one wishing to be heard, Commissioner Vierhus moved that the public hearing be closed, seconded by Commissioner Pack and unanimously adopt~Y,i 32~ RtSOLUTION N0. 1584 Commissioner Vierhus moved that the Commission adopt Resolution No. 1584 recornmerrding that the City Council adopt an Ordinance approving PD 77-5, application of Prodis Associates, subject to the conditions recommended by staff, seconded by Commissioner Pack and adopted by the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners: Campos ,Vierhus, F'ack, Lubeckis, Dickson. NOES: Commissioners: None. ABSENT: Commissioners: Samuelson. ABSTAIN: Commissioners: Hebard. Chairrnarr Dickson declared a recess at 9:00 p.m. Meeting reconvened at 9:15 p.m. Chairman Dickson announced that the next item for consideration would be Item No. 14, UP 77-3. UP 77-3 This is the tune and place for public hearing to Harris, consider the application of Sister Geraldine Harris Sister Geraldine for a use permit to allow a small family residential care home (six or less persons in need of care) on property known as 100 El Caminito Avenue in a R-1 Zoning District. Chairman Dickson asked Mr. Kee for his continents. Mr. Kee stated that a communication had been received from Douglas and Helen Harville which he requested the Recording Secretary read. (Letter on file in the Planning Office). The letter requested that no change in the R-1 zoning be made. f1r. Kee stated that the applicant is requesting approval of a residential care home for the developmentally disabled. The proposed site is zoned single family residential and located approximately 400 feet from Winchester Blvd. The home is well-kept and not visually different from the other homes on the street. Discussions with the County Department of Social Services reveals that the City of Campbell has no residential care hoirres for• small family or large family (more than six) for the developmentally disabled. Mr. Kee referred to an excerpt from the California Public Welfare and Institutions Code which provides that a use permit cannot be used to deny an application but can add conditions that are necessary to protect the health and safety of the residents. Mr. Kee advised that he had talked with the City Attorney in the preparation of the report to the Commission and he may have some comments on the State requirements for small family homes. Chairman Dickson declared the public hearing open and asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak for the application. Ms. Gayle Lee, Los Gatos, stated that she has lived in the Santa Clara County for 21 years and is a professional social worker and has worked with the Social Welfare Department for 15 years. She stated that she is the owner of the subject property. She stated that the City of Campbell has a responsibility to its citizens to give serious consideration to taking care of people needing -12- ~) ~' residential care. Campbell does not have a single residential small family care home in the entire coiruuunity. She stated that Sister Geraldine has 15 years experience in working with developmentally handicapped. The handicapped have the same rigi~t as everyone else to have the same whole quality of life. Ms. Sandy Blinn, social worker,, Stated that ~I~e has worked with Hope Workshop for the past five and a half years and during that time she has come to love the people she works with. Being retarded doesn't mean that the people have stopped growing - they still have room for growth. She stated that Campbell needs to address itself to the small family-type care, which would mean a regular-type life style for the retarded person. The house will not look any different than any other house and it doesn't have to feel any different. She was fully in support of what Sister Geraldine is doing. Commissioner Lubeckis asked where the six people would come from that would live in the house. Ms. Blinn stated that there are workers at the County in a special unit that deal with the developmentally handicapped. Ms. Lee advised that ttre handicapped come from all social and ethnic groups. Anyone is free to go to Sister Geraldine. Commissioner Campos stated that reference was made earlier that these family type homes in San Jose were located in the downtown ghetto and he asked how the area became a ghetto? ~1s. Lee stated that most of the homes are located in the dowtown area, off Santa Clara Street to the south and near San Jose State College. She stated that Sister Geraldine could better answer that question. Commissioner Lubeckis asked if Sister Geraldine would discriminate against welfare persons? Ms. Lee stated that most handicapped people are supported by Social Security Insurance and some of the people living in the home may be receiving Social Security Insurance benefits. Commissioner Campos asked Ms. Lee if it was her interpretation that if a city does not provide for the care of the handicapped, that they are discriminating? Ms. Lee stated it was her opinion that each COnrlrlUnlty has the responsibi lity to all their citizens and there is no kind of support system for the handicapped in this community. Sister Geraldine is asking for a use permit to allow a home in a whole area for six or less people. Chairman Dickson asked for a definition of the developmentally handicapped? Ms. Blinn stated that developmentally handicapped would mean those persons who are mentally retarded, epileptic, neuologically handicapped, and cerebral palsy persons. Sister Geraldine Harris, applicant, stated that in response to the letter that was sent in regard to changing the zoning on the property, there will be no change of zoning. The area is one family residential and would allow a residt~~.? -13- 323 care home for six or less persons. The zoning is not being changed in any way. She stated that she felt very strongly about giving good living conditions to the handicapped people. The idea of spreading out into smaller residential surroundings remain. If these change, then you can no longer offer good living conditions to the handicapped. Commissioner Pack asked how she proposed to finance the project. Sister Geraldine Harris advised that she i~as received a loan from her Order and through S.S.I. The present rate through S.S.I. is $285 for each resident. Commissioner pack asked if this proposal was under the auspices of her Order - under the Church. Sister Geraldine stated that it was a personal thing. She is borrowing money from the Order. The Order is not sponsoring it - it is a private thing. Conunissioner Lubeckis asked how can you delineate mentally handicapped. A mentally handicapped person can be very dangerous - you can never tell how disturbed he is. How will you decide? Sister Geraldine stated that she would decide. She will make the final decision as to who will live there. She asked if Commissioner Lubeckis was speaking from experience. Cornmissiorier Lubeckis stated that he was speaking from events that have happened in the world. How far will a mentally disabled person go? Sister Geraldine stated that she has worked for 20 years ire a Junior Nigh School and has worked with the mentally retarded and she has never experienced anything other than gentleness from these people. She stated she has never been in a situation where a person has been hurt. She stated that he was expressing feeling that has no substance. Conmissioner Lubeckis stated that he merely was expressing his concern. Chairman Dickson asked how many people would be on the premises. Sister Geraldine stated that there will be six residents and herself and she will have a responsible substitute help. She stated that the residents will be involved in adult development programs and in a few cases, the community may employ a handicapped person. They will be out of the house during the normal working hours. If someone were ill, she would have a substitute staff who would come in and be with them. She stated that she is responsible for them 24 hours a day. Mr. John Oneta, 1143 Paula Drive, stated that Sister Geraldine has devoted her• life to helping mentally retarded persons and there is a difference between mentally retarded and mentally disturbed people. Sloe will be the same as being the head of a small family and she would like to provide a decent place for them to live. He stated that he would be proud as a citizen of Campbell to have them living in Campbell. -14- 3 `~~ Chairman Dickson asked if anyone wished to speak in opposition to the application, and if so, if they would limit their conmrents to two or three minutes. Mr. Richard O'Connor, 110 El Carninito, stated that he has lived there 27 years and has enjoyed the single family street. Most of the residents on E1 Carninito object to this development and asked that those people in the audience who were opposed to stand. He read a list of persons living on the street who were also opposed to the application. He stated that they have read the justification statement submitted by Sister Geraldine and there is no way that anyone can tell the level of disability. He stated that there is no one who can guarantee them the level of mental handicap that these people are going to have. He stated that whether there is one or a hundred persons living in a mentally handicapped institution, it is a mental institution. He stated that if he sold his home, he would have to tell the prospective buyer that there is a mental institution next door. This is a single family area and it would downgrade the value of the property. He stated that his final plea is that the building remain a single family dwelling. Mr. Henry Karmen, 190 W. E1 Canrirrito, stated that this area has been under discussion within the past two or three years and a zone change was attempted on a piece of property to change it to PD for multiple family dwellings. At that time the residents of the area protested and the area remained single family. He requested that the Commission deny the use permit. Mr. Jack Weir, 133 El Caminito Avenue, stated that they have single family dwellings on that street and he objects to a business operation on the street. He stated he was in business and he conducted his business in a commercial area. Chairman Dickson advised the members of the audience of the State's ruling on this particular type of use and he read the section of the Government Code (Section 5116). The State has said that this is a residential use. Mr. Weir stated that he still objects. Ms. Lee stated that the objections seem to be centered around property values. Another is the definition of "home". She stated that family living can be defined in many ways. There are not enough adequate facilities for the mentally retarded in the State and the State has returned the care of the mentally retarded to the corrniunity. They do not say that they have to be concentrated in a small area. They have as much right to walk down the street, use the parks, etc. as anyone else. City Attorney Dempster stated that it is possible members of the audience do not realize the handicap the Planning Conrrnission is placed under. The State law dictates the use and the Planning Commission's hands are tied. The section of the code says "shall". It does say that the Commission can impose certain conditions if they have evidence placed before them to indicate that those conditions are required. There cannot be an assumption that something can happen. Mr. Norman Lamb, 103 El Caminito, asked how the Connnission would know whether or not this home was adequate for yo~arrg people. They do not even know how old the occupants will be. Has the State looked at the home? tie was of the opinion that the Commission has the right to refuse the permit. Why is the use permit even required? -15- 325 City Attorney Dempster stated that he can hear what the people are saying, but the Conynission has to obey the State laws. The law says that no conditions shall be imposed on such homes which ar•e more restrictive than those imposed on other similar dwellings in the same zones unless such additional conditions are necessary to protect the health anti safety of tfre residents. He stated that the law is pretty self-explanatory and the Commission must have information and evidence when they start to impose conditions. P1r. Dempster stated that the State law overrides the City's Ordinance and the State law says you "shall". Chairman Dickson stated that he would have to assume that City laws are not in agreement with State laws. P•1r. Dempster stated they are not. Commissioner Campos stated that the City Attorney is saying they must have evidence to impose conditions - how do they get the evidence? Mr. Dempster stated that after they are in the house and if something should happen, that would be the evidence required. Mr. H. A. Weitzel, 191 E1 Caminito Avenue, stated that this use will become a small business and this is a residential area and no businesses are allowed. Mr. Henry Karmen stated that it is unfair to say that the people in Campbell do not take care of the people in the City. He said they were willing to and believe that they should do this on a reasonable basis. There are other places in the City, such as Pollard Road. Chairman Dickson declared a recess at 10:20 p.m. The greeting reconvened at 10:30 p.m. Chairman Dickson asked if anyone else wished to speak against the application. Sister Margaret Hoffman, teacher at Notre Dame High School, stated she lived in downtown San Jose and belonged to the samre order as Sister Geraldine and she would speak in rebuttal to tf~e gentleman who just spoke. She stated that much is lacking in the care of people who are orientally retarded. She stated that the older generation was raised in fear of the mentally disabled and she cited cases where her high school students have worked with the mentally disabled and their fears turned to love for• them and after graduation, some of them continued to visit with them. She stated that people need education and understanding in the care of the mentally disabled and what Sister Geraldine is doing will give all of us an opportunity for quiet growth. Mr. O'Connor asked that the item be continued for thirty days so the residents may take a real good look at the situation. Mr. Bruce Hodgin, 100 W. Rincon, #209, stated that he did not come to the meeting to speak on this matter but having had the opportunity of listening to the discussion, he felt obligated to speak. He stated that he iras a mentally retarded sister who is now age 41 but has the mental capability of a 10 or 12 year old. Fie stated that he has never seen hatred from her, but he has seen it thrown at her. It is a hatr°ed out of ignorance. He stated that. she has been -16- 3 `? h in institutions and hospitals and tire policy has changed from one administration to another. They are not mentally disturbed, they are mentally handicapped. He stated that he could not condemn the people speaking against the application. Some are speaking from a position of ignorance and stupidity - one that they grew up with. He would ask the Commission to remember that these people are citizens - they can't vote - they can't make a decision. Commissioner Lubeckis replied that he did not like Mr. liodgin's implication of ignorance or idiots, and stated that some of his remarks were insulting. Mr. Hodgin apologized and stated his reir-arks were not intended for Commissioner Lubeckis. Commissioner Vierhus stated that they have a serious problem and a very important one as far as the conununity is concerned, and he would move that the hearing be continued for thirty days, in order to get the best possible conditions. Commissioner Pack asked Sister Geraldine if the people are going to be employable. Sister Geraldine advised that some of the people could be employed at the "Hope" Workshop. Some could be employed in community jobs. A home such as the one proposed can serve to prepare the individuals to live by themselves. They will learn food preparation, how to manage money, etc. It could help them to move out and live on their own. Commissioner Pack asked if the applicant would be agreeable to having a lesser number. Sister Geraldine stated that the house has four bedrooms and two bathrooms. She doubted that she could give them the kind of food, clothing, and care that she would like to give them if there were only two or four persons living there. She is renting the house and the soonest she can get a license from the County is the middle of next month. She asked that the Commission not put this off for thirty days. She is living on a loan and she cannot pay rent indefinitely. She stated that as far as the danger is concerned, she would never put herself in a position where she felt any physical danger. She would be the first one to suffer physical danger. She would ask that the people in the neighborhood would show a kindness toward her people. Society has rejected the handicapped and their needs are just as great as ours. She stated that the things that she has heard tonight has hit her very hard. Sloe stated that there are 200 people working at the Hope Workshop and there has never been any difficulty. She felt very strongly that the neighborhood feels the way they do. She stated that she would hope that there would be kindness shown to handicapped people. City Attorney Dempster advised the Commission that he would recommend that they consider putting a conditi-~n on the approval of a review in six months. He discussed this with the owner of the pr•oper•ty and she indicated that this wound not be a problem. He stated that in six months they can review the application and can hear from the neighbors. He stated that anyone in disagreement with the law should take it up with the legislature. He suggested that in the six month time, they will have had some experience to work with. He assured Sister Geraldine that in the six months she would not have to ask for a renewal of the use permit. It would be a review of the use permit. -17- 327 Sister Harris asked that under the State law, does the City have the right to place the conditions? There is no change in zoning. City Attorney Dempster advised that Section 5116 of the California Public Welfare and Institutions Code provides that conditions may be placed on the use permit if they are necessary to protect the health and safety of the residents. Commissioner Hebard asked Mr. O'Connor what he had in mind in requesting the continuance. Mr. O'Connor stated that it is apparent that the neighbors have made no progress and he would like to yet together and discuss the law and have it interpreted for them. Mr. Oneta again spoke in favor of the use permit. Fie was of the opinion that the use permit is to protect the residents of the home and he had not heard anything to indicate that there is any danger. Chairman Dickson asked if anyone else wished to be heard. There being no one, Commissioner Hebard moved that the public hearing be closed, seconded by Commissioner Pack and unanimously adopted. RESOLUTIOfd N0. 1585 Commissioner Pack moved that, in view of what the Commission has heard and in view of what the City Attorney has indicated is the State law, Resolution No. 1585 be adopted approving UP 77-3, application of Sister Geraldine Harris, to allow a small family residential care home on property known as 100 El Canrinito Avenue subject to the conditions recommended by the staff and with the added condition that the project be reviewed by the Planning Commission in six months, seconded by Commissioner Campos. Chairman Dickson asked for discussion on the motion. Chairman Dickson stated he was going to vote as instructed by the City Attorney, but it did not necessarily reflect his feelings. Commissioner Vierhus stated that the Commission has no choice because of the ruling from the City Attorney. Commissioner Lubeckis stated that he has tfre choice of not voting at all - to abstain. He stated that he could not yo against the State law, nor go against the neighbors' wishes. City Attorney Dempster advised that the Commission weigh the issue and he did not necessarily agree that they should abstain. He stated that he was not telling the Commission anything - he was just advising them what the State law says. Commissioner Hebard stated that he supports the motion. The State law is very clear and the Commission has followed that and have imposed some additional conditions for the health and safety of the residents. They have done what was expected of them. -18- 3?~ Vote on the motion: AYES: Commissioners: Hebard, Campos, Vierhus, Pack, Dickson. NOES: Commissioners: None. ABSENT: Commissioners: Samuelson. ABSTAIN: Commissioners: Lubeckis. Chairman Dickson advised that Supervisor Diridon was now in attendance and they would go back to Item No. 4, application of Richard Alexander. Chairman Dickson introduced Supervisor Diridon. Supervisor Diridon apologized for arriving late. He stated that the County was not able to support the request of Campbell to purchase the property in question. It was probably one of the most important decisions that the Board will have to rrrake with regard to the West Valley Corridor. The West Valley Corridor is a State project and it is important that it continue to be a State project. He stated that approximately 65 percent of the land has been purchased in the Corridor and there has been increasing pressure from the landowners to use their land. He stated that if the State is sincere in protecting the Corridor, they will step forward and buy the land. The Valley needs that Corridor. Commissioner Pack stated that for the record, she would like Supervisor Diridon to know that the Commission is sorry they could not wait for him to be in attendance. They did approve the application before them. She did feel that a hardship was being caused for the applicant. She thanked Supervisor Diridon for his report. Commissioner Hebard stated that they supported the Board of Supervisors and the Transit Directors and he thought it most important to have communication between them. He stated that. the Corrnnission took action in response to the Transporta- tion Agency and it was gratifying to know that their commitment was taken seriously. He thanked Supervisor Diridon for coming before them to explain the Board's action. Supervisor Diridon stated that he appreciated Commissioner Hebard and Mr. Kee attending the Board meeting. He stated that if the State does buy this land, it would be a signal that the State is interested in protecting the West Valley Corridor. Commissioner Hebard stated that the City Council should know what has tr•anspir•ed. He moved that the staff be directed to get this matter on the City Council agenda so they can have a formal report, seconded by Commissioner Pack and unanimously adopted. Supervisor Diridon asked that the Transportation Agency be advised as to what transpires. -19- 329 PUBLIC HEARINGS (CONTINUED UP 77-2 This is the time and place for public hearing to consider Hodgin, Bruce E. the application of Mr. Bruce E. Hodgin for a use permit and approval of plans to convert an existing residence into an office building on property known as 106 West Campbell Avenue in a P-0 (Professional Office) Zoning District. Commissioner Pack reported that the Architectural Review Committee met with the applicant. They were in agreement that the application should be considered by the full Conunission, since it is on a conversion. As Chairman of the Architectural Review Committee, she reconnnended approval of the application. Chairman Dickson asked Mr. Kee for his comments. Mr. Kee reviewed the revised plans that were brought before the Architectural Review Committee. The entrance area has been changed and there is more detail treatment around the windows. There has also been a slight change in the pedestrian access to the entrance. He presented colored renderings to show the roof color which is being proposed. Chairman Dickson announced that this is a continued public hearing and he asked the applicant if he wished to be heard. Mr~. Bruce Hodgin, applicant, stated that he intends to use this converted residence for his real estate office and other offices who will share his receptionist. The future development to the west will be a new professional office, which will share the driveways and parking. He will grant easements for access. He was agreeable to the roof color. Chairman Dickson asked if anyone else wished to be heard. Commissioner Pack moved that the frear,ing be closed, seconded by Commissioner Lubeckis and unanimously adopted. RESOLUTION N0. 1586 Commissioner Pack moved that the Commission adopt Resolution No. 1586 approving UP 77-2, application of Bruce E. Hodgin, subject to the conditions recommended by staff, seconded by Commissioner Lubeckis. Commissioner Hebard stated that his feelings were that a conversion of a residence to an office should be a conversion on both the inside and outside and he said he would follow his previous action in opposing dwelling conversions unless they are truly conversions. Commissioner Pack stated that she would like to have it noted that it is within the realm of the COlnmisslon to make recommendations for changes in buildings architecturally. This does fail within the architectural section of the Ordinance and the Commission can make suggestions for changes. The Ordinance states that residences beiny converted should look like office buildia -20- 3 ~ () Connnissioner Campos asked what is a true conversion? He did not see this as a true conversion, but with the guidelines used in approving conversions, he would go along with it. It was not clear to him what a true conversion is. Commissioner Vierhus was in agreement with Conmrissioner Campos. There are no hard and fast rules as to what a conversion is. In his opinion, sometimes a residential appearance is a more aesthetic improvement in the community than a box-like office. He was of the opinion that the Commission should be flexible. Commissioner Lubeckis asked if this conversion would compliment the surrounding buildings. Mr. Kee advised that it was the opinion of the staff, as well as the Architectural Advisor, that this conversion would be in line with previous conversions. Vote on the motion. AYES: Commissioners: Campos, Vierhus, Pack, Lubeckis, Dickson NOES: Commissioners: Hebard ABSENT: Commissioners: Samuelson. PD 71-2 This is the time and place for public hearing to Gallo, N. consider the application of Mr. and Mrs. Nino Gallo for approval of plans, elevations, and development schedule to allow construction of a warehouse building on property known as 71 Gilman Avenue in a P-D (Planned Development/Industrial) Zoning District. Commissioner Pack reported that the Architectural Review Committee recommends continuance in order that revised plans inay be submitted. The staff also recommends continuance and the applicant is in agreement. Chairman Dickson declared the public hearing open. Commissioner Vierhus moved that PD 77-2 be continued to the next regularly scheduled meeting, seconded by Commissioner Pack and unanimously adopted. PD 77-3 This is the t.irne and place for public hearing to Font, Dr. John F. consider the application of Dr. John F. Font for approval of plans, elevations, and development schedule to allow construction of an accessory building on property known as 106 East Campbell Avenue in a P-D (Planned Development/Commercial) Zoning District. Commissioner Pack reported that the Architectural Review Committee reviewed this application. The applicant was not present at the committee meeting. The committee recommends the approval of the application subject to the conditions recommended by staff. Chairman Dickson declared the public hearing open. -21- 33~ Commissioner Hebard stated this is in a PD Zone and he would like to see how a hexagonal building would be compatible with an old Spanish-style house. Commissioner Pack stated that she had the same concerns, but likened it to a gazebo in the back of are old Victorian mansion. Commissioner Campos stated that the proposed buildiny will be set back to the rear of the original building and its primary use will be fora conference room, lunch room for employees, and it would not take away from the existing parking. Chairman Dickson asked Mr. Kee what was on the surrounding lots. Mr. Kee presented an aerial photo showing the location of the subject property and the surrounding developments. The total area of the proposed building is approximately 500 feet. Commissioner Pack stated that the colors are in accord with the design, there are no windows facing out to adjoining structures Gnd there i5 quite a lot of landscaping on the property. Commissioner Hebard stated that he was not going to oppose this application. The Architectural Advisor says that it is an attractive structure, but he would feel more comfortable if he said it were compatible with other structures on the site. Mr. Kee stated that he will call that concern to the attention of the Architectural Advisor. Commissioner Pack -moved that the public hearing be closed, seconded by Commissioner Campos and unanimously adopted. RESOLUTION N0. 1587 Commissioner Pack moved that the Commission adopt Resolution No. 1587 recommending that the City Council adopt an Ordinance approving PD 77-3, application of Dr. John F. Font, subject to the recommended conditions, seconded by Commissioner Vierhus and adopted by the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners: Hebard, Campos, Vierhus, Pack, Lubeckis, Dickson. NOES: Commissioners: None. ABSENT: Commissioners: Samuelson. ZC 77-3 This is the time and place for public hearing to conside,~ PD 77-4 the application of P1r. Ira Kirkorian for a change of Kirkorian, Ira zoning fr•orrr R-3-S (High Density Residential) to P-D (Planned Development/High Density Residential) and to consider the application for approval of plans, elevations, and development schedule to allow construction of 24 single family homes on property known as 1545 Bucknall Road. Chairman Dickson asked for Mr. Kee's comments. Mr. Kee advised that .the staff and Architectural Review Committee recommends continuance in or~der that the applicant may subirrit revised plans. - 22- 3~~?' Chairman Dickson declared the public hearing open and asked if anyone wished to be i~ea rd . There being no one present wishing to speak, Commissioner Hebard moved that ZC 77-3 and PD 77-4 be continued to the next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission, seconded by Commissioner Pack and unanimously adopted. PD 77-6 This is the time and place for public hearing to Millen, Richard 6. consider° the application of Richard f3. Millen for approval of plans, elevations, and development schedule to allow construction of 27 townhouses on property known as 450 Union Avenue in a P-D (Planned Development/High Density) Zoning District. Commissioner Pack advised that the committee reviewed this plan with the applicant and recommends a continuance to the next meeting so revised plans can be submitted. The applicant is in agreement with the continuance. Chairman Dickson declared the public hearing open and asked if anyone wished to be heard. There being no ore wishing to speak, Commissioner Vierhus moved that PD 77-6 be continued to the next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission, seconded by Commissioner Pack and unanimously adopted. G.P. 76-2-C This is the time and place for continued public hearing West Valley to consider the future use of the West Valley College College Site Site. Mr. Kee advised that the staff recommends continuance on this public hearing to the second meeting in May. The reconm~endation for continuance to the second meeting in May is to allow the Council to take action, if any, to amend the plan lines for the North Loop Street. Commissioner Hebard moved that G.P. 76-2-C be continued to the May 17, 1977, meeting, seconded by Commissioner Pack arrd unanimously adopted. P1ISCELLANEOUS Staff Report Guidelines for implementing the California Environmental Quality Act of 1970. Mr. Kee stated that a letter was received from the State on December 28, 1976, outlining the changes to the guidelines for implementing the California Environmental Quality Act of 1970 and it would be helpful if the Commission could approve the amended guidelines as presented by staff and forward them on to the City Council for adoption. The staff has attempted to get the City i°equir•ements in accord with the State requirements. Commissioner Hebard moved that the City Council adopt the resolution prepared by staff amending the guidelines for• implementing the California Environmental Quality Act of 1970, seconded by Commissioner Vierhus and adopted by the following roll call vote: -23- 3~~ AYES: Commissioners: Nebard, Campos, Vierhus, Pack, Lubeckis, Dickson. NOES: Commissiorrer~s: None. ABSENT: Corrnnissioners: Samuelson. Comunissioner Nebard moved that the Planning Corrunission approve the list of consultants submitted by staff approved for the preparation of Environmental Impact Reports for the City of Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Campos. Commissioner Pack abstained from voting due to a possible conflict of interest. Comrrissior~er Campos asked what the procedure would be if someone wished to submit the name of a consultant to be added to the approved list. Mr. Kee stated that if an applicant has a consultant he wishes to use, and he is a recognized consultant, the staff would bring it to the Commission for approval. If the Commission had a consultant they wished to have added to the list, they could also vote to add him to the approved list. Vote on the motion: AYES: Commissioners: Nebard, Campos, Vierhus, Lubeckis, Dickson. NOES: Commissioners: None. ABSENT: Commissioners: Samuelson. ABSTAIN: Commissioners: Pack. Chairman Dickson announced that he has been asked to be the liaison between the Commission and other commissions and he gave a brief report of the other commissions' activities. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Lubeckis moved that the meeting be adjourned, seconded by Commissioner Pack and unanimously adopted. The meeting was adjourned at 12:15 a.m. APPROVED: J. DuWayne D" ickson, Chairman ATTEST: Arthur A. Kee, Secretary -24-